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Leith Walk Project
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Posted 5 years ago #
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The Cockburn Association said it supported the extension in principle but not the current plans. Their response to the consultation on the tram extension said: “What is presented to us is not a civic vision or a new, exciting expansion to our world-famous places. It is an engineering project that attempts to subjugate Leith Walk to meet engineering needs.”
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Posted 5 years ago # -
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At Transport Committee, top official @sto_paul questioned by @CllrChasBooth promises that #TramsToNewhaven plans will be re-thought to ensure that the #ActiveTravel gains made in #LeithWalk will not be lost - there will be a 'holistic' design to benefit all sustainable transport
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https://twitter.com/spokeslothian/status/997069602902261760?s=21
Posted 5 years ago # -
Sounds promising. However, proof of the pudding, etc.
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This is a brand new shop, open last week
You'd not be granted tables and chairs consent here.
Who's responsible for telling them their lease stops at their front door and doesn't extend all the way to the cycle lane?
Posted 5 years ago # -
Trading standards? That ice cream fridge on the pavement looks like it's not permitted. Environmental wardens also an option maybe?
Posted 5 years ago # -
I'm just picturing the queue of injured runners at the Infirmary due to that fridge (see Silverknowes thread).
Posted 5 years ago # -
I actually think that what the shop have done is perfectly reasonable. And indeed shops & cafes should be encouraged to “spill out” into the street, as part of place making. The problem is the designers made the footway too narrow - probably to accommodate parking or 4+ lanes of motor traffic
Posted 5 years ago # -
@neddie is quite correct. Plus of course there's a whole metre of the street's width given over to those slippery tactile slabs too.
Posted 5 years ago # -
I’d usually be very supportive of street trading. This is probably one of the more charming arrangements on the walk right now, and will see them good trade into their shop. However I don’t see how one can unhypocritically support this sort of arrangement, narrowing the walkway to less than a metre, while complaining about pavement parking, trade waste and a-boards in another breath.
For what it’s worth the oversized notch in this particular photo is for a large side-emptying bin that was never installed, the communal wheelie bins are still in use. The pavement doesn’t need to narrow here.
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Sure, in principal shops spilling out a little is no problem. But not at this location! It will just promote conflict between pedestrians and cyclists.
All an unfortunate consequence of a poor design choice in narrowing the footway.
Posted 5 years ago # -
Don’t go down LW often.
Is THIS a cycle path?
Posted 5 years ago # -
Haven't been that way much myself either since the new LiDL opened on Easter Road...
You can't beat a bit of daundering around communal bin bays combined with contractors digging up the footway. Makes for a 'quality' experience! Almost as 'quality' as the QBC eh?
Posted 5 years ago # -
Aye that's Leith cycle infrastructure - who knows what the furthest triangular sign is supposed to indicate. Hop off the cycle path into the bus lane?!
Posted 5 years ago # -
Ok.
So are these riders on the cycle bit or not?
Posted 5 years ago # -
Yes, it jukes left and goes behind the bus stop (as per design), though at the moment the railings you see on the far left overlap the cycle lane until it's about 20cm wide.
Posted 5 years ago # -
Thanks.
I’ve seen it and still don’t believe it!
Posted 5 years ago # -
The triangular roadworks signs are for the road: if you look in the second photo you can see that part of the works area extends up to the edge of the roadway, and the signage is presumably there to give some warning about and protection for the workers.
The fact that there is also an appropriate warning sign at the roadworks on the cycleway is surely a good step in the right direction itself. (Probably there should also be something reflective in front of the barrier fencing on the left, however.)
Arguably there should probably also be separate advance "roadworks" and "road narrows" signs for the cycleway as well, but that would add quite a lot of pavement clutter in this case, and so perhaps are not really absolutely necessary here in practice?
(aside: I remember a few years ago when a Dutch maintenance company was doing some maintenance work on the Forth Road Bridge which affected and in some places narrowed the cycleways along the bridge, because of space needed for access towers and site huts, etc. The standard of signing for cyclists was incredible (by our pathetic standards). It was so obvious that in the Netherlands no company would ever consider not signposting roadworks affecting cycle routes properly!)
Posted 5 years ago # -
Yet more give way markings on Leith Walk.
Seems they tried to go for a continuous footway (tactiles continue through) but then remembered cars must never be inconvenienced.
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Posted 4 years ago #
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An underground lair stuffed to the gunwales with repurposed top secret military hardware, and yet Batman only needs a flimsy wooden hazard barrier to stop unwanted incursions. If that's the level of intelligence amongst criminals, hardened urbexers, and drunk people who might wander 14 miles without realising, no wonder Batman keeps winning.
Posted 4 years ago # -
drunk people who might wander 14 miles without realising
Harsh but, I suppose, fair.
Posted 4 years ago # -
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Leith Walk has the highest number of injury crashes per mile of any road in Scotland, according to new analysis.
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Posted 3 years ago # -
Leith Walk has a perfect storm of high-density living, an apparent high-speed motorway and a fair subset of the population who are very young, infirm or in some way befuddled.
Posted 3 years ago # -
Also the position of 'safe' crossing points was recently permanently changed and has been unstable for several years. Also the standard road-frustrations of those vehicle drivers susceptible thereto possibly increased by have recently passed through one or two stupid roundabouts.
Posted 3 years ago # -
Most other Edinburgh "arterial routes" in the top ten also. A7 (Bridges/North Bridge), A1140 (Portobello Road), A8, A1 (London Road/Portobello Road), A700 (Melville Drive).
So fast heavy traffic running through densely populated areas leads to more collisions: who knew?
Disappointing to see Cllr MacInnes downplaying the figures.
Time to reduce speed limits on ALL roads in the city, build more safe crossing points, introduce measures to deter traffic from entering the city, etc.
Posted 3 years ago # -
Brunswick Street
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Following a formal survey of how drivers are using this junction, the decision has been made to close it to allow the situation to be considered more fully.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/cllrscottarthur/status/1562161737968893952
Posted 1 year ago # -
Not sure how they’ll resolve that one short of putting a filter on it or keeping it closed. Even if it wasn’t a dropped kerb pedestrians would have priority, but drivers just aren’t respecting that. At least they took action before anyone was hurt.
Posted 1 year ago #
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