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"Pressure on green belt as 10,000 homes to be built"

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  1. chdot
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  2. chdot
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  3. chdot
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    The completed developments will represent a 27 per cent increase in the total number of homes in the village which local campaign Gullane Opposes Over Development (GOOD) say is the equivalent in Edinburgh “of five areas the size and population of Leith being suddenly added to the city with no public transport links connecting it”.

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    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/our-region/council-give-green-light-to-300-new-homes-in-gullane-1-4469394

    Posted 6 years ago #
  4. chdot
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  5. kaputnik
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    The £76 million loan will be repaid over 25 years and unlike a government grant, means the money will return to the public purse. It will contribute to 36 percent of the development cost with an injection of 64 percent from private investment.

    So, £76M is 36%, so the full development cost is £211M which is £211k per house built. Surely houses should cost less to buy than private developers can already build and sell (at profit) them for.

    Port of Leith Housing Association's press releases for their 5 year plan suggests that they are spending about £104k per new house built.

    Am I missing something?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  6. chdot
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    There will be £20m for roads in West Edinburgh to help deal with the congestion issues around large new housing developments.

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    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/politics/1bn-edinburgh-city-deal-finally-agreed-1-4508790

    Posted 6 years ago #
  7. gembo
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    The last bit of green belt between Currie and Balerno has gone. This was a strip of land the ran north south parallel to the spur of the Balerno train line. (The spur that ran under the A70). You can see the Forth bridges at that point but soon you will see the CALA houses. I'd say the greenbelt has shifted along that railway spur to ravelrig hill but CALA HAVE OPTIONS ON THAT FIELD TOO. So now I would estimate the green belt is now out the A70 beyond the sign for Balerno. There is no pavement by that point, there is a massive private development where what looks like a few young guys have cleared a site, planted trees and put up fences. Has taken them a while with one digger but this will presumably become housing.(just possible to cross the Lanark road and find an overgrown pavement through various other housing developments if one wanted to walk), west of there the land is boggy and has wee pipes sticking out of the ground, possibly related to the quarry on the dalmahoy road side. I don't think CALA will want it.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  8. chdot
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    There will be a £50 million development fund to accelerate private housebuilding in areas like the Granton waterfront and £15m to set up a new Edinburgh homes company, which will lever in up to £250m borrowing to expand housebuilding in the Capital.

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    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/politics/1bn-edinburgh-city-deal-set-to-create-21-000-jobs-1-4508790

    Posted 6 years ago #
  9. chdot
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    She also used the article to outline areas where reform was needed, including the need to build housing on greenbelt land

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    http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/ruth-davidson-calls-for-conservatism-reboot-1-4512031

    Posted 6 years ago #
  10. gembo
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    Ruth CALA Davidson

    Posted 6 years ago #
  11. I were right about that saddle
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    Ms Davidson's article is worth a read, if only for sight of the swirling confusion in the mind of our next First Minister;

    We will need to be particularly bold when we see restrictive practices....

    ...Closing loopholes, increasing enforcement and overhauling regulatory frameworks can go some way to addressing the creeping cronyism...

    She appears to be arguing for a system close to Chinese Communism, but finishes with;

    Time to press Ctrl + Alt + Del.

    apparently wishing to lock the computer, switch user or, more likely, launch the task manager, with us doing tasks and her managing.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  12. chdot
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    "She appears to be arguing for a system close to Chinese Communism"

    Not sure about, but the extent to which RD and KD seem to be at odds with their Westminster equivalents ought to suggest they would be more interested in independence (or perhaps Independence)...

    Posted 6 years ago #
  13. I were right about that saddle
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    Not sure about

    Me neither, obvs because it is so badly written. Seems to be arguing for state-managed markets to benefit the workers. Much of of the advance from poverty she alludes to has occurred in China under a form of semi-slave capitalism with a technocratic cadre in charge.

    Also, written from an ahistorical perspective in which 'Britain' never profited from its own semi-slave capitalist empire run by a technocratic cadre.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  14. kaputnik
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    http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/ruth-davidson-calls-for-conservatism-reboot-1-4512031

    Is this the article in which she proclaims Henry Ford is the father of mass production? Marc Brunel might be closer to the mark, 100 years before Ford.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  15. Arellcat
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    His pulley block making machine? Yes, good call.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  16. Morningsider
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    Which party drove the destruction of our manufacturing industry and championed off-shoring? Which party introduced the right-to-buy and prevented local authorities from re-investing proceeds in new house building? Which party sold-off our national infrastructure to foreign governments and vulture capitalists? Which party has systematically attacked the NHS and social security systems - the real reason for improved health outcomes and longer life for many less well-off people?

    Why - the Ruth Davidson party!

    Posted 6 years ago #
  17. chdot
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    "Why - the Ruth Davidson party!"

    No no - it was the pre-Ruth Davidson party!

    She is clearly trying to take over the remnants as she doesn't have the confidence to start her own (Scottish based/only??) Party.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  18. Morningsider
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    chdot - I know what you mean, but I wouldn't let them off so lightly. The Scottish Tories voted against the abolition of the right to buy in Scotland in 2014. The Scottish Tories have supported all UK Government social security changes since 2010. The Scottish Tories announced earlier this year that they want to develop two new nuclear power plants in Scotland (no word on funding - but the Chinese are the only ones interested in this work). All this (and much more) under Ruth Davidson's watch.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  19. chdot
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    I'm not really letting anyone off.

    It's all diversionary tactics.

    'We don't want anyone to realise we don't have much influence in the way the world works or have answers/solutions to problems'.

    (Applies to all political parties.)

    Posted 6 years ago #
  20. kaputnik
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    On Ruth's watch the party (or parts of it) has also been channelling large amounts of funds from murky sources towards the DUP to campaign for Brexit (which Ruth actively campaigned against), has had a very questionable increase in opaque donations from otherwise defunct parochial Conservative Associations to fund their leafletbombing campaigns at recent elections. Oh and happily stood candidates from the Orange Order. And candidates with absolutely no intention of taking up their seats.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  21. I were right about that saddle
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    Ms Davidson's article for the tl:dr;

    'I've been on wikipedia and some carefully selected history has happened with no political context. Something must be done!'

    Posted 6 years ago #
  22. chdot
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    But planning officials are urging councillors to throw out the application for the green belt land fearing the impact it will have on plans to turn the fields close to Craigmillar Castle into a vast woodland and country park.

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    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/our-region/edinburgh/craigmillar/plans-for-750-new-homes-at-craigmillar-could-be-rejected-1-4545793

    Posted 6 years ago #
  23. chdot
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    In a report penned in December, he concluded that “a development of this scale ... would seriously erode the openness of the green belt between Dunblane and Bridge of Allan, and have a significant negative impact on its core role and function to maintain the separate and distinct identities of these towns and to protect their landscape settings”.

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    http://www.scotsman.com/sport/tennis/ministers-back-judy-murray-tennis-and-golf-centre-plan-1-4546501

    Posted 6 years ago #
  24. gembo
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    The SNP are very keen on Scotland being built on. Tennis ok. Golf? I judge (having a back story very linked to golf) that we have enough golf courses.

    If you are ever out the Lang Whang just shy of hagrid's house you will see the sign for Kersewell the golf resort of the 21st century. Never built. Just the houses there in the middle of nowhere.

    Would be a pretty boggy course if ever built. Which it won't be.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  25. HankChief
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    I have often wondered about that development but never once I have returned home.

    Looks ambitious

    http://www.catfossgroup.com/group/developments.php

    Posted 6 years ago #
  26. chdot
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    Developers failed to persuade councillors to grant approval for 750 new homes on greenbelt land behind the Royal Infirmary of Edinburgh despite plans to include a park “twice the size of the Meadows”.

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    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/business/council-reject-plans-for-750-new-homes-near-eri-1-4546996

    Posted 6 years ago #
  27. Trixie
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    They dangle the park like a carrot. Like there's any other option for the flood plains for the burns behind the hospital.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  28. chdot
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  29. HankChief
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    Not quite greenbelt, more finishing off the bit to the South of Edinburgh Park.

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/new-500m-urban-quarter-planned-for-edinburgh-outskirts-1-4574695

    http://www.parabola.com/portfolio/edinburgh-park/

    Could link in well to the WEATN

    Posted 6 years ago #
  30. Stickman
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    How many car parking spaces will be allocated to each office?

    Posted 6 years ago #

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