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"Pressure on green belt as 10,000 homes to be built"

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  1. chdot
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    I think it’s a sign of cynicism all round.

    A larger sum would look like corruption...

    Posted 3 years ago #
  2. chdot
    Admin

    Robert Jenrick, the housing secretary, is under pressure to resign after newly released documents indicated that he had “insisted” a planning decision for a £1bn development should be rushed through so a Tory donor’s company could reduce costs by up to £50m.

    In one document, a civil servant in the Ministry for Housing, Communities and Local Government wrote that the secretary of state (SoS) wanted the Westferry development in east London to be signed off the following day so that Richard Desmond’s company would avoid the community infrastructure levy (CIL).

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jun/24/robert-jenrick-to-release-all-relevant-information-in-planning-row

    Posted 3 years ago #
  3. chdot
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    “This is the only green space we have; it is effectively the back garden for over 500 households in the high rises and helps combat social isolation,” said MMMRA secretary Neil Hansen.

    “It’s a well used and much loved park. It’s the only area where the kids can play, exercise and socialise. It’s well used by dog walkers and is used for fun days and community events.”

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/people/save-our-garden-locals-camp-out-edinburgh-park-protest-possible-housing-development-2901076

    Posted 3 years ago #
  4. chdot
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  5. chdot
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  6. chdot
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    Mr Cook called it a ‘travesty’ that parkland was zoned for housing.

    He added: “Good parklands are vital to the health of our communities. It’s particularly important for those that don’t have gardens of their own. The council should positively support residents.

    “It would be unforgivable that instead of supporting Inch and Moredun residents, parkland and potential community facilities are lost to present and future generations.”

    A council spokesperson said: “As we grapple with population growth, Edinburgh’s unique property market and the economic challenges of Covid-19, we’ll need to do all that we can to increase our stock of good quality, affordable homes for families to live in.

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/politics/council/former-councillor-slams-travesty-listing-moredun-green-space-housing-development-2907973

    Posted 3 years ago #
  7. gembo
    Member

    Conflicted here as whilst I believe everything young Nick says is wrong, just by chance a random munger of monkeys with an infinite number of typewriters might have written his text or him?

    Going to have to read the article

    Posted 3 years ago #
  8. gembo
    Member

    Ah, resolution of my cognitive dissonance FORMER councillor Bill Cook who is commenting.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  9. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Nick Cook has never been to Moredun or the Inch.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  10. gembo
    Member

    @IWRATS, yes I should have known this.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  11. chdot
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    "We're on a lovely quiet cul-de-sac and it's a safe haven for children to run around and play, learn to cycle.

    "A lot of people come here because it's a beautiful area to walk their dogs, bring the children, there are lovely rivers and it's part of ancient wood.

    The site was used between 1907 and 1912 as a dump for the ash created by the incineration of Edinburgh's domestic waste at the Powderhall Destructor.

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/environment/families-fear-health-over-housing-plans-which-mean-digging-century-old-edinburgh-waste-2909018

    Posted 3 years ago #
  12. neddie
    Member

    Don’t know if this applies to Scotland or not, but this doesn’t look good

    Cue loads of developments, where they’ve conveniently forgotten about any pavements, cycling provision, etc

    https://news.sky.com/story/homes-hospitals-schools-and-shops-to-get-automatic-planning-permission-under-government-shake-up-12040728?dcmp=snt-sf-twitter

    New homes, hospitals, schools, shops and offices will get "automatic" permission to be built, under a radical shake-up of planning laws.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  13. chdot
    Admin

    That’s England, but...

    Will they have 5 day consultations??

    Converted ex-offices being suggested as ‘the next slums’.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  14. chdot
    Admin

    Just England (so far)

    Under the plans, local councils will be asked to designate land either as “growth”, “renewal” or “protection”. New developments will be granted automatic permission on “growth” land and “renewal” areas will see developments given “permission in principle” subject to some checks. Only areas given the “protection” status, including the greenbelt, will not have automatic building rights.

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/aug/03/up-to-45000-new-homes-to-be-green-lit-ahead-of-planning-shake-up

    Posted 3 years ago #
  15. Trixie
    Member

    To follow on from the plans to build on Moredun field; the justified outrage from the community has caused the plan to be kicked into the long grass. It won't be included in the new LDP so is fairly safe until 2022 while the council 'engage with the locals' about future plans. In other words try again later when they hope people in the high rises will have moved away or forgotten it was all they had during lockdown.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  16. chdot
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  17. chdot
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    The proposed new village on the A71 between Ratho and Dalmahoy would have 1,200 homes, a village centre with a bus/cycle hub, local retail, leisure and education/community facilities.

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/environment/scotlands-first-post-covid-community-proposed-west-edinburgh-3025427

    Posted 3 years ago #
  18. gembo
    Member

    Hatton Mains maybe? Has squash and tennis club, farm and joinery firm. Education facility? A school? Local retail? Think the bigger `Ratho has one shop. Road down to ratho cyclable. BUT A71 a nasty road to cycle. What they seem to be ignoring is that it is in the green belt - seems iffy.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  19. Murun Buchstansangur
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    Yep https://www.hattonvillage.com/

    The fermer/property developer/council masterplan to make Livingston a western suburb of Edinburgh continues apace.

    At least it would have a pub (well, carvery).

    Posted 3 years ago #
  20. gembo
    Member

    Nice one @Murun - has anyone on this forum ever been to that Toby Carvery across from Dalmahoy?

    Posted 3 years ago #
  21. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @gembo

    I plan to celebrate the defeat of the virus in the Carvery opposite Dobbies on the A7 roundabout. Pint of John Smith's.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  22. gembo
    Member

    @Iwrats, another hell hole. What is wrong with Robin’s Nest for you? 2 courses 4.99, free salmonella for pudding?

    Posted 3 years ago #
  23. steveo
    Member

    Fear not, the carvery at the Gyle will be open!

    I have actually been to that one a few times, it has an area for the kids to be that isn't at the table.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  24. Arellcat
    Moderator

    has anyone on this forum ever been to that Toby Carvery across from Dalmahoy?

    Yes. I was there once for a modest New Year's Day lunch. I thought the food was good, but something disagreed with me and I ended up in bed for two days with nothing inside me. Anecdata I know.

    Also, no bike parking.

    https://www.hattonvillage.com/

    "
    The new community will be able to access these employment centres plus wider services and amenities in Edinburgh via a range of public transport options including existing and improved bus links along the A71, Hermiston Park & Ride, rail/tram stations at Currie and Edinburgh Park plus cycle paths along the Union Canal.
    "

    Ah yes, that car-free utopia. Right next to the A71 and a stone's throw from the A899 (M8).

    Posted 3 years ago #
  25. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @gembo

    The Robin's Nest is interesting. I have tried the food and survived. I have also tried the public bar and not just survived but enjoyed it.

    But the walk to the Stable Bar is pleasant.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  26. ejstubbs
    Member

    @gembo: What they seem to be ignoring is that it is in the green belt - seems iffy.

    Crime writer Ian Rankin pleads for Edinburgh sculpture park to be protected from green belt housing threat

    The best-selling author has thrown his weight behind a campaign to prevent land beside Jupiter Artland, near Ratho, being allocated for a development under a 10-year blueprint for new housing being drawn up by the city council.

    ...its future is under “significant threat” after nearby [land?] was earmarked by the city council as one of five green belt sites on the outskirts of the city where new housing could be built. They claim new housing would “rupture the peace” for visitors and deter artists from creating bespoke work there.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  27. bill
    Member

    Just in case there was any confusion the Hatton Village and Calderwood are two separate sites for the proposed housing development. Calderwood being between East Calder and Wilkieston, while Hatton Village between Ratho and Dalmahoy.

    This link shows roughly where the Calderwood houses are planned.

    I don't feel particularly sorry for Jupiter Artland and their 'precious views' because I don't like their 'Walkers Keep out' sign on the gate at Clifton Rd.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  28. gembo
    Member

    @bill, that sign is easily ignored and I have cycled through JAL numerous times mainly to good effect though once we went to the amethyst grotto and a member of staff was a bit of a jobsworth and unfortunately i was not on best behaviour. I see a pattern. I make concessions (had pulled off road to let oncoming vehicle pass) then my gesture is discounted and some cat gives me earache. Then I do not react very well..

    Very funny map btw with big arrow and words underneath I dictating Precious VIEWS

    Posted 3 years ago #
  29. chdot
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  30. chdot
    Admin

    Clearly NOT Green Belt, might take some pressure off(?)

    A property company is proposing up to 250 new homes as part of a seafront residential-led development in place of car showrooms at Seafield.

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/environment/250-homes-proposed-new-edinburgh-seafront-development-3113713

    Posted 3 years ago #

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