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"Pressure on green belt as 10,000 homes to be built"

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  1. Arellcat
    Moderator

    "New Pentland", coming soon to a just-out-of-town development near you. Online consultation goes live on 10 Feb, I believe. It is this (relatively small) parcel of land.

    https://planning-applications.midlothian.gov.uk/OnlinePlanning/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=summary&keyVal=QNCB3ZKV0B600

    "Proposal of application notice for mixed use development including:

    • Class 2 (professional and other services)
    • Class 3 (food and drink)
    • Class 4 (business)
    • Class 7 (hotel)*
    • Class 8 (residential institutions)
    • Class 9 (residential), Sui Generis** (flats)
    • Class 10 (non-residential institution) and associated works

    Land At Junction of The A701 and Pentland Road Old Pentland Edinburgh"

    * [rule 2]
    ** aka 'unique', hah!

    Posted 3 years ago #

  2. Frenchy
    Member

    They seem to have left the "A701 Relief Road" out of their visualisations. How odd.

    Posted 3 years ago #

  3. chdot
    Admin

    “

    We welcome your views to assist us in developing the proposals further and comment forms are available on the website. The proposed masterplan site presents a unique opportunity to shape a new neighbourhood to this part of the city.

    “

    https://seafieldroad.scot

    Posted 3 years ago #

  4. chdot
    Admin

    Instead of the green belt...

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/environment/back-drawing-board-call-over-plans-former-rbs-site-edinburgh-3125879

    Posted 3 years ago #

  5. gembo
    Member

    This overbuilding must stop.

    Whatever was there on that spot that might have Been of historic interest is long gone and if I have the right spot, fairly modern building going to be replaced by new build. Like in London when just after finishing a building they knock it down and build a newer more expensive one.

    Not trying to defend the builders, though I note they have already changed their plans to try to accommodate Fettes Row Royal Crescent Association. Who are now asking them to rip that up and start again. Tough markers the FRRCA I imagine.

    Posted 3 years ago #

  6. mga
    Member

    The Fettes Row and Royal Crescent Association have a Twitter handle called "more-trees.info" in relation to the RBS development. The may well have valid points but I just want to know why they chose this as their logo.

    Posted 3 years ago #

  7. chdot
    Admin

    Most odd!

    Going to ask?

    hello@more-trees.info

    Posted 3 years ago #

  8. gembo
    Member

    Trees lead to resubmission, which t(e architects have done. Return t9 drawing board even with Winnie The Pooh in shades? Seems unlikely unless there is a Masonic connection?

    Posted 3 years ago #

  9. chdot
    Admin

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/jul/04/its-tearing-us-all-apart-housing-plans-in-sussex-turn-nimby-against-nimby

    Posted 2 years ago #

  10. chdot
    Admin

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/politics/council/fresh-assault-on-edinburghs-greenbelt-as-500-new-homes-proposed-at-cammo-3370889

    Posted 2 years ago #

  11. ejstubbs
    Member

    Maybe not specifically green belt but: https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/environment/east-lothian-greyhound-stadium-plan-finally-bites-the-dust-3370961

    Get planning permission to build a housing development on farmland as it's supposedly the only way to make your pie-in-the-sky greyhound stadium idea financially viable (i.e. it never actually was financially viable), build an eyesore skeleton grandstand to meet the bare minimum conditions attached to the planning permission for the houses, then sell off the stadium site to a meat processing company as the stadium is "no longer" viable.

    A more cynical person might suspect that perhaps just maybe the stadium idea was only ever a somewhat bizarre cover story to get permission for the housing development.

    (As an aside, am I the only one who finds it a bit ironic that the people apparently so concerned about the welfare of greyhounds - which I will admit probably don't exactly benefit a huge amount from their involvement in the racing business - seem happy to turn a blind eye to the stadium site being used instead for processing dead animals for human consumption?)

    Posted 2 years ago #

  12. chdot
    Admin

    “am I the only one who“

    The world is full of such contradictions.

    Don’t suppose the dogs were vegetarian.

    Not so many around after decline of racing, so debatable how much owners were interested in the animals (except as actual/potential winners.)

    Posted 2 years ago #

  13. gembo
    Member

    Greyhound would also catch a rabbit back when your meat was clearly a dead animal.

    Processed meat could be anything really, including actually soya beans or insects? Witchity grubs in Australia taste like chicken?

    Out before Carnwath on the A70 Kersewell, the 21st century resort sign has been replaced by a new sign that says Lannraig. Still no golf course, the land looks pretty boggy to me. But houses have appeared.

    Posted 2 years ago #

  14. chdot
    Admin

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/lifestyle/homes-and-gardens/rejected-balerno-housing-estate-could-be-overturned-by-scottish-government-3386913

    Posted 2 years ago #

  15. gembo
    Member

    Soon Built up edinburgh will stretch to the west Lothian signs

    Posted 2 years ago #

  16. chdot
    Admin

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/politics/council/battle-looms-over-edinburghs-greenbelt-as-city-leaders-decide-how-to-meet-capitals-housing-needs-3387712

    Posted 2 years ago #

  17. chdot
    Admin

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/politics/council/edinburghs-future-housing-developments-earmarked-for-brownfield-sites-as-council-leaders-aim-to-preserve-greenbelt-3394577

    Posted 2 years ago #

  18. chdot
    Admin

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/politics/council/edinburghs-opposition-to-greenbelt-development-risks-jeopardising-delivery-of-the-homes-the-capital-needs-say-housebuilders-3396983

    Posted 2 years ago #

  19. crowriver
    Member

    They would say that, wouldn't they?

    Posted 2 years ago #

  20. HankChief
    Member

    The West Craigs Developmwnt is still at the stage of preparing the land and doing ground works, however, it now has a fully built playpark amongst the sea of mud and big trucks. Weird.

    Oh & if I'm not mistaken they have also starting building the ramp up to the new bridge by the Gateway Station, that still hasn't been approved due to Network Rail wanting LOTS of money to go over the railway.

    Posted 2 years ago #

  21. neddie
    Member

    Playparks were invented to keep kids off the streets and out of the way of more important motor cars :-\ So makes perfect sense

    Posted 2 years ago #

  22. chdot
    Admin

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/people/grand-designs-experiment-plans-for-narrow-north-berwick-home-approved-3407059

    Posted 2 years ago #

  23. Yodhrin
    Member

    Sounds like a sensible decision? And like the original refusal was a matter of cooncillors and locals imposing their own architectural tastes rather than any objective planning standard.

    Posted 2 years ago #

  24. Frenchy
    Member

    Really interesting data visualisation job here: https://www.tomforth.co.uk/ringpopulations/

    Click somewhere on the map, and it'll calculate the population density in rings around that point, each year for the last 20 years.

    You can then compare different cities and see which have different patterns. Manchester and Birmingham, for example, have both had large increases in city centre population density, whereas Oxford and Livingston are examples of places with little or no increase in city centre population density.

    Edinburgh has had a modest increase in city centre density, but notably started off at a higher population density than just about anywhere else I've thought to click on, except some areas of London.

    Posted 2 years ago #

  25. chdot
    Admin

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/people/edinburgh-local-fumes-as-trees-planted-in-private-garden-cause-eye-sore-3422995

    Posted 2 years ago #

  26. gembo
    Member

    Low news day? One local doesn’t like the trees on a bit of ground that belongs to the Housing Co-operatives and none of the tenants that live in the housing seem bothered?

    Posted 2 years ago #

  27. chdot
    Admin

    “Low news day?“

    Isn’t every day??

    The actual story says interesting things about expectations, and entitlements.

    In the context of this thread it (in a tiny way) shows some of the areas where ownership and (expectations of) consultation and processes clash…

    Posted 2 years ago #

  28. chdot
    Admin

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/transport/new-m9-junction-at-winchburgh-given-the-green-light-3428217

    Posted 2 years ago #

  29. crowriver
    Member

    If this is where I think it is, will make the road under the motorway a no go zone for cyclists. Motorway slip roads meeting roundabouts will make for a very hazardous road environment.

    Posted 2 years ago #

  30. acsimpson
    Member

    Don't worry it will be "Served by a fully upgraded core road".

    So that's 2m wide uni-directional cycleways on either side of the road as well as pavements then. Or do they not know they meaning of fully.

    Posted 2 years ago #

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