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"Pressure on green belt as 10,000 homes to be built"

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  1. crowriver
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    I used to go this way quite a lot, it is a useful route back into Edinburgh from West Lothian, and was relatively quiet. Route options out of Linlithgow will be severely curtailed once this motorway junction is completed.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  2. gembo
    Member

    The final phases of the master plan can progress. Wow? Apparently only 1000 homes could go in and once the slip roads are sorted to allow people to get to the queue on the motorway more quickly another 2800 homes can be built. The village is already double the size it used to be. Set to double again?

    RC primary, Non denominational primary and non denominational secondary all being built.

    Who are all the people moving to Winchburgh? Do any of them know where the pink jumbo jet nose cone is parked?

    Posted 2 years ago #
  3. acsimpson
    Member

    My neighbour moved to Winchburgh (the village not the new housing development). I don't know if she has discovered the pink plane nose yet.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  4. MediumDave
    Member

    I presume the nosecone is only there to gladden the heart when riding up that grim little lane between the bings

    Posted 2 years ago #
  5. gembo
    Member

    @mediumdave, you know the spot. I wonder if it is an Air BnB?

    Posted 2 years ago #
  6. duncans
    Member

    Could be forgiven for thinking they’ve already started, that road has been closed for months now. Very bad news for getting around by bike, that will bring a lot more traffic to the wee back roads and effectively close that route to Winchburgh.

    Duntarvie castle in the background of the illustration if I’m not mistaken.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  7. duncans
    Member

    ‘The greater metropolis of winchburgh’, to give its full title. Quite a frightening amount of development there.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  8. gembo
    Member

    The kiltmaker’s ruin? @Duncans. Quite nice back road from Queensferry to there but will be busier now with the New town of Wynchburgh?

    Posted 2 years ago #
  9. duncans
    Member

    Not so much of a back road once converted to motorway junction, unfortunately. Those back roads were very popular for getting to linlithgow.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  10. chdot
    Admin

    New Winchburgh thread?

    Posted 2 years ago #
  11. crowriver
    Member

    Is it here? Will be a total nightmare if so.

    https://goo.gl/maps/ZUucY77i6rnjsRTV8

    Posted 2 years ago #
  12. gembo
    Member

    @duncans, sorry should have said, early Sunday morning only time I ventured on these roads on a bicycle, or if brave very early Saturday mornings

    Posted 2 years ago #
  13. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    Yes that’s the place @crowriver

    Main road through Winchburgh (B9080) has always been bad for cycling - multiple deaths of cyclists by trucks I think? Guess there is now the option of getting cut up by Panzerwagens on tick as well as the traditional souped up Astras?

    Better cycling options exist (Peniel Place/Faucheldean/cut up to Builyeon Rd to Duntarvie) but these will likely be compromised by the sheer scale of proposed development (new road proposed to cut across Faucheldean & Duntarvie close to this new junction)

    The level of interest and care for cycling by the developers is shown by their masterplan delusion that NCN1 passes through their plastic village for plastic people

    Posted 2 years ago #
  14. gembo
    Member

    @Murun Harsh, but yes, fair. The original Wincelburghers will be reaching for their cudgels.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  15. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    @gembo yes harsh and maybe unfair but my hyperbole has a grain of truth perhaps. 10 years ago, solo passages in lycra through Wincelburg never failed to elicit pithy comments from passerbys or hurled from the passenger window of a farting Astra but more recent visits have been critique free. The softening has begun

    Scotland only has 44 towns with 15k+ inhabitants - it could make the list if all these houses get built?

    Posted 2 years ago #
  16. chdot
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  17. duncans
    Member

    Looking out the window here and thinking, that land for the new M9 junction is low lying and very prone to flooding. Difficult to drain. Hope they have a plan.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  18. chdot
    Admin

    With the refurbishment of Caroline Park railway station now underway, creating a hub for the wider community, and new homes under construction at Western Villages, our ambitious plans for a new waterfront community the size of the New Town are taking shape.

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/opinion/columnists/edinburgh-councillors-allegedly-abusive-behaviour-is-shocking-if-true-cammy-day-3447506

    Posted 2 years ago #
  19. chdot
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  20. chdot
    Admin

    A COMMUNITY has claimed victory in stopping plans for Green Belt housing in Glasgow's last remaining village which were given the go-ahead in breach of the city council's own rules.

    https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/homenews/19730201.carmunnock-group-victory-glasgow-city-council-court-action-green-belt-homes-plan/

    Posted 2 years ago #
  21. chdot
    Admin

    “The proposed residential element also has the potential for bringing much-needed affordable housing, consistent with the aim of the emerging City Plan that is seeking to maximise development on brownfield sites with higher density developments, protecting Edinburgh’s existing greenbelt.”

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/environment/edinburghs-cameron-toll-could-see-hotel-and-housing-added-alongside-shopping-centre-3473656

    Posted 2 years ago #
  22. MediumDave
    Member

    Fair enough; time they put some of that mahoosive bleak carpark to better use. <irony>Of course, the new housing will be car free</irony>.

    The hotel residents will have an unpleasant time overlooking the traffic sewer that is Lady Road.

    I have other questions too: the article claims there's a bike shop in Cameron Toll. Is there? Where have they hidden it? I haven't seen one but I only tend to visit Sainsbury and (occasionally) Waterstones.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  23. MediumDave
    Member

    PS Lady road looks well nice with all those zebra crossings, strolling peds and 0 cars.

    When can we get us some of *that* ?

    Also, what's in that huge glass box at the back of the aerial view? I guess it will be where McDonalds is now.

    One can play Spot the Random Tram too.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  24. Morningsider
    Member

    I think the proposed hotel development is on the site of the current medical centre and scout hut. What better way to build a 20-minute neighbourhood than to demolish two community facilities and replace them with a hotel?

    Posted 2 years ago #
  25. Frenchy
    Member

    @Morningsider - my understanding, from the location plan on the planning portal and the artist's impression in the EEN is that the hotel would be further north. Either on, or very close to, the petrol station.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  26. Morningsider
    Member

    @Frenchy - thanks - my mistake.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  27. MediumDave
    Member

    That location plan is quite amusingly ancient: there appears to be a roundabout at the Craigmillar Park/Lady Road junction.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  28. chdot
    Admin

    West Lothian council has to do more to encourage house builders to take on brownfield sites or else it will continue to face development bids for its dwindling open countryside.

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/environment/west-lothian-council-urged-to-do-more-to-encourage-house-builders-to-take-on-brownfield-sites-3500789

    Don’t know how much it is/should be responsibility of LAs.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  29. chdot
    Admin

    New greenfield housing developments are locking residents into car dependency, making everyday journeys impossible without a vehicle, a new report has found. Meanwhile, pledges for walking, cycling and public transport are often left unfulfilled.

    The group Transport for New Homes (TfNH) visited 20 new housing developments in England, finding that while those on urban brownfield sites generally lived up to sustainable transport pledges, greenfield sites were often far from shops and amenities, without public transport, cycling links or even pavements, and the homes themselves were seemingly designed around car parking.

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2022/feb/07/new-greenfield-housing-forcing-people-to-use-cars-report-finds

    Posted 2 years ago #
  30. chdot
    Admin


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