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"Pressure on green belt as 10,000 homes to be built"

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  1. acsimpson
    Member

    The active travel route down the Almond from Kirkliston to Cammo is one I haven't seen before.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  2. Yodhrin
    Member

    There's lots of stuff here that I've not seen discussed before - I take it that means most of it is pie in the sky/unfunded? Stuff like the city centre to porty route along london road/portobello road doesn't seem to be on anyone's radar for near to medium term for example.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  3. neddie
    Member

    The active travel route down the Almond from Kirkliston to Cammo

    They could put an active travel tunnel under the runway, with massive Dutch-style multi-storey bike parking right inside the terminal building...

    oh, sorry, wrong country...

    Forgot how backward we are, silly me.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  4. chdot
    Admin

    “There’s also a requirement for improved pedestrian and cycle routes to link the development northwards along the Wisp to its junction with Niddrie Mains Road particularly to provide links to Castlebrae High School.”

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/politics/council/newcraighall-heavily-contaminated-former-coal-mine-site-to-become-housing-development-3930419

    Posted 1 year ago #
  5. chdot
    Admin

    England

    Gove confirms levelling up bill will be amended to abolish mandatory housebuilding targets for councils
    Michael Gove, the levelling up secretary, has sent a letter to Tory MPs confirming that the government will water down housebuilding targets, PA Media reports. PA says Gove told the MPs the levelling up bill would be amended to abolish mandatory housebuilding targets.

    Gove said he recognises “there is no truly objective way of calculating how many new homes are needed in an area” but the “plan-making process for housing has to start with a number”.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2022/dec/05/keir-starmer-rishi-sunak-labour-conservatives-brexit-latest-updates?page=with:block-638e25688f08ec68b6018faf#block-638e25688f08ec68b6018faf

    Posted 1 year ago #
  6. chdot
    Admin

    “The homes include low-carbon features such as solar panels, high levels of insulation and energy-efficient boilers, as well as electric car charging points, which will help tenants with their bills and help us cut our carbon footprint.

    “I’m sure our tenants will enjoy living here.”

    https://www.scottishconstructionnow.com/articles/300-new-wheatley-homes-take-shape-in-edinburgh

    Posted 1 year ago #
  7. acsimpson
    Member

    I'm sure their tenants would enjoy living there more if the ramp in the background wasn't looking like turning into a farce. I'm not sure if hankchief has heard any more but the last I heard there was no firm plans yet to connect the path over the railway to the Gyle.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  8. chdot
    Admin

    “The dismissal of the appeal is a great victory for all those who campaigned so hard to protect this important green space in the west of Edinburgh. It is now important for the Scottish Government to approve the council’s new local development plan so this area and many other important greenbelt sites in Edinburgh can be protected in the years to come”.

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/politics/council/edinburghs-greenbelt-victory-for-campaigners-as-developers-appeal-over-new-homes-at-cammo-is-rejected-3980278

    Posted 1 year ago #
  9. chdot
    Admin

    90 homes to be built on East Calder farmland despite objections

    Government Reporter overturns council objection

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/people/90-homes-to-be-built-on-east-calder-farmland-despite-objections-3989454

    Posted 1 year ago #
  10. chdot
    Admin

    12.35 GMT

    Sir Mike Penning (Con) asks about the protection of the green belt in his constituency.

    Sunak says the government will always protect “our precious green spaces”.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2023/jan/25/nadhim-zahawi-pmqs-tax-hmrc-rishi-sunak-conservatives-uk-politics-latest?page=with:block-63d122018f08621c3a35467d#block-63d122018f08621c3a35467d

    Posted 1 year ago #
  11. chdot
    Admin

    Plans to build a new medical practice to serve up to 10,000 patients in south Edinburgh have been put on hold because of a funding freeze. The new GP premises were due to form part of the city council's new Liberton High School campus, where construction is due to start in April. Thousands of new homes in south Edinburgh mean there is growing demand for medical services and there have been calls for an increase in GP capacity for the past eight years.

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/health/edinburgh-gps-new-medical-practice-at-liberton-high-school-put-on-hold-by-funding-freeze-4045190

    Posted 1 year ago #
  12. neddie
    Member

    Why haven't the housing developers been made to fund this?

    For example, all those new houses put up in Gilmerton, not a single facility, no shops, no doctors, no tram route, no leisure facilities...

    Private enterprise yet again externalising their costs on to the taxpayer

    #PlanningFail

    Posted 1 year ago #
  13. chdot
    Admin

    “Why haven't the housing developers been made to fund this?”

    Because that would make the houses ‘too expensive’.

    “Private enterprise yet again externalising their costs on to the taxpayer”

    Quite

    ‘Everyone’ wants ‘more houses’

    Er, the rest doesn’t matter…

    Posted 1 year ago #
  14. neddie
    Member

    It's alright, cos everyone can "just drive" to the shops/doctors/leisure centre and there won't be any negative consequences, none at all </s>

    Posted 1 year ago #
  15. neddie
    Member

    The transport problems in this country are essentially planning failures

    Posted 1 year ago #
  16. chdot
    Admin

  17. chdot
    Admin

    Thousands more cars could pour into Edinburgh every day unless a railway station is built in the fast-expanding West Lothian commnity of Winchburgh, an MSP has warned.

    Winchburgh, until recently a village of just 2,000 people, is due to grow to a population of more than 12,000 over the next decade. Many new homes have already been built, along with two new secondary schools and a primary school. But an attempt by West Lothian Council to make a new railway station a condition of planning permission was blocked by Scottish Government agency Transport Scotland.

    But afterwards Mr Choudhury said Mr Harvie’s response was “not satisfactory” and claimed no-one was taking responsibility for making sure the station was built. He said: "We need to get that station going and save a lot of people using their cars. Otherwise, we face the prospect of thousands of commuters clogging the roads as they drive into Edinburgh every day. If there's no station they will be using their cars and the traffic will be a pure disaster. I’ve talked to the developers and talked to the community and nobody is happy about this. People have been buying houses believing there is going to be station. The developers say they are happy to invest in a station, but they need support from the Scottish Government.”

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/transport/edinburgh-faces-thousands-more-cars-every-day-unless-railway-station-built-in-west-lothian-town-4087609

    Posted 1 year ago #
  18. chdot
    Admin

    “It’s also important to highlight the benefits of the improved active travel links to local walking and cycling routes connecting to the surrounding villages.”

    https://web.archive.org/web/20230407085707/https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/23440560.village-set-become-scotlands-new-commuter-community/

    It’s also important to highlight the fact that a station doesn’t seem any closer.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  19. ejstubbs
    Member

    And the fact that bus services in that area are inadequate to support the dystopian-sounding concept of a "commuter community"? (Not helped by Lothian's foray into West Lothian being drastically scaled down due, amongst other things, to lack of use.)

    I assume that "commuter community" is the new term for what used to be called a "dormitory town". At least a dormitory town did used to be a town i.e. a community in its own right, before its original function was displaced by later living/working/travelling habits. Building a bunch of ticky-tacky executive residencettes on greenspace land specifically to house people who work somewhere else and then calling it a "community" seems like faux-aspirational marketing BS of a particularly high degree.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  20. chdot
    Admin

    The crazy thing is that Edinburgh to Dunblane services already have time built into the timetable for a Winchburgh stop. So the current situation delays existing passengers while benefiting noone.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/muzzascot/status/1644313797148942338

    Posted 1 year ago #
  21. chdot
    Admin

    Meanwhile the new motorway junction is already creating traffic and making former quiet farm roads non viable for cycling. These were important quiet links, without an alternative.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/dnmnsmith/status/1645499791948881936

    Posted 1 year ago #
  22. chdot
    Admin

    When planning permission was granted by Blaby District Council for New Lubbesthorpe, it was a requirement that a public transport bus service was made available to residents. Go Travel Solutions, on behalf of the Drummond Estate for New Lubbesthorpe, worked to introduce this service to the District.

    https://www.blaby.gov.uk/your-council/news-and-awards/news/new-lubbesthorpe-bus-service-evolves/

    Posted 1 year ago #
  23. chdot
    Admin

    Council officers accepted that trees and habitat would be lost and the scheme was contrary to the authority’s development plan, but said the benefits included the provision of new homes in a city struggling to find enough land for housing.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/apr/26/anger-in-bristol-as-councillors-approve-plan-for-homes-on-site-of-zoo

    Posted 1 year ago #
  24. chdot
    Admin

    Tories plans for farms to build homes to help halt housing emergency

    https://archive.is/FEcaB

    .heraldscotland.com/politics/23489541.tories-plans-farms-build-homes-help-halt-housing-emergency/

    Posted 1 year ago #
  25. chdot
    Admin

  26. chdot
    Admin

    Keir Starmer, the Labour leader, is already under fire for his promise to make it easier to build on the green belt. But the details of the party’s latest pro-development policy show he is willing to risk the wrath of existing land and property owners in his attempt to jump-start new building across the country.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/may/29/labour-allow-local-authorities-buy-land-cheaply-for-development

    Posted 1 year ago #
  27. chdot
    Admin

    The Council's consultation document on the development of 7000 new homes in Gogar and Ingliston has been approved at Planning Committee today with a big win from SNP Councillors demanding more focus on the impacts on local traffic congestion

    https://twitter.com/euanhyslop/status/1669018220404039686

    Posted 1 year ago #
  28. chdot
    Admin

    West Edinburgh masterplan: Vision of 11,000 new homes in new neighbourhood along A8 close to Edinburgh Airport

    New Edinburgh community will be 20-minute neighbourhood and include affordable housing

    Kevin Lang, Lib Dem councillor for Almond ward, which includes the airport and its surroundings, welcomed the consultation, particularly since it reinforced the council’s declared policy of not releasing any more greenbelt land for development. He said: “I think it’s good news we’ve got another set of plans which back up the City Plan the council gave the Scottish Government that shows you can develop areas, whether it’s for housing or economic development, without handing over a single acre of greenbelt land for development.

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/politics/council/west-edinburgh-masterplan-vision-of-11000-new-homes-in-new-neighbourhood-along-a8-close-to-edinburgh-airport-4223388

    Posted 1 year ago #
  29. gembo
    Member

    11,000 is small town called Murrayville?

    Posted 1 year ago #
  30. chdot
    Admin

    Meanwhile in England -

    Just half an hour before Gove was due to speak, Browne tweeted: “I will do everything I can to stop the government’s nonsense plans to impose mass housebuilding on Cambridge, where all major developments are now blocked by the Environment Agency because we have quite literally run out of water. Our streams, rivers and ponds already run dry.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/jul/24/tory-mp-anthony-browne-michael-gove-cambridge-housing-development-planning

    Posted 1 year ago #

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