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"Pressure on green belt as 10,000 homes to be built"

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  1. chdot
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    DEVELOPERS behind a bid to create Scotland’s first permanent film studio on the outskirts of Edinburgh have revealed that they have a string of operators and backers on board for the project.

    The team behind the £150 million Pentland Studios scheme, earmarked for a huge swathe of green belt land in Midlothian, confirmed agreements were in place, with several potential investors waiting in the wings.

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    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/pentland-studios-developers-reveal-big-name-backers-1-4042279

    Posted 8 years ago #
  2. chdot
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  3. chdot
    Admin

    Not the green belt -

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    The property guru is the brains behind a number of ongoing developments in and around Edinburgh, including the transformation of the former HM Revenue and Customs offices in the New Town into a 127 bed Premier Inn.

    He was also behind the conversion of the Craigievar House office block – along with the surrounding area in East Craigs – into affordable housing, and in 2014 constructed 48 new flats as part of a major brownfield development at Lochend. Merchant Capital’s Minto Hotel development will see the 130-year-old main building turned into luxury apartments, while the non-original extensions to the rear of the hotel will be replaced with three new town houses.

    Councillor Cameron Rose, who represents Newington, said the development represented a “significant refurbishment” that would be generally welcomed by residents – despite some locals still harbouring a few misgivings.

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    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/the-minto-in-newington-to-be-converted-into-housing-1-4043437

    Posted 8 years ago #
  4. chdot
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  5. chdot
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    Today the phrase garden city has become a euphemism for building in the green belt.

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    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/02/healthy-towns-wellness-communities-urban-planning

    Posted 8 years ago #
  6. chdot
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    Adding more development out to the west is only going to make congestion worse.

    “We’ve got a green belt for a reason and we give it up at our peril.”

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    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/edinburgh-road-is-the-worst-commute-in-britain-1-4072356

    Posted 8 years ago #
  7. crowriver
    Member

    ' And he warned plans for a cycle lane between Roseburn and Haymarket could also worsen congestion.

    Cllr Edie said: “I have a concern the proposed two-lane cycle route, where they want to rip out the bus lane, is not going to help.

    “Buses guarantee easy access into the city centre along what is a very congested route.

    “This is one of the most important bus routes in and out of the city.

    “Removing the bus lane would be a retrograde step and I don’t know what transport officials are thinking about in suggesting that.” '

    Posted 8 years ago #
  8. Stickman
    Member

    Will Paul Edie ever join the dots on all these things?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  9. chdot
    Admin

    Probably not, looks like he'll be in the group of politicians who saw driving as a sign of aspiration and prosperity and are now seeing drivers as the 'voting class' - and a persecuted minority.

    So much for vision, leadership and representing (all of the) people and their interests.

    IF bike lanes slow down the buses, and no drivers become bike riders, he'll be right.

    But it's a BIG if - and still won't deal with the reality of too many people 'allowed' to drive their own cars.

    Perhaps he'll be campaigning for a congestion charge or a bridge toll...

    Posted 8 years ago #
  10. crowriver
    Member

    Maybe Cllr Edie would prefer it if the road was converted to two bus lanes, one in each direction? That would certainly ease congestion on the A8 at peak times. :-)

    Posted 8 years ago #
  11. chdot
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    He said: "Take the Green Belt of Edinburgh, which is basically just fields of wheat owned by speculators. The Green Belt is a redundant philosophy to try and contain urban sprawl. Owners love the Green Belt: it pushed up land prices.

    "My vision would be to use the Green Belt as a food belt, a porous area around cities of farms, smallholdings, forests and lakes and huts that people could cycle out to."

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    http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/14371139.Revealed__the__Robin_Hood__revolution_that_will_take_land_from_rich_and_give_it_to_the_poor

    Posted 8 years ago #
  12. daisydaisy
    Member

    That would be lovely. A green belt for people to use.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  13. chdot
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    NEW images showcasing a controversial new housing development have been unveiled.

    Dubbed “New Brunstane”, the scheme would see between 950 and 1300 homes constructed over a 48-hectare site known as Brunstane Farmland.

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    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/brunstane-farmland-housing-development-plans-unveiled-1-4082115

    Posted 8 years ago #
  14. chdot
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    What was once its ground has long been used as a car park for a Royal Bank of Scotland data centre. With the bank planning to close the offices at Dundas Street, Fettes Row and Royal Crescent, it has been earmarked for a residential development.

    However, community groups are urging RBS to donate the site to the City of Edinburgh Council so that St Bernard’s proud heritage can be safeguarded, and in doing so create a cherished open space in the heart of the New Town.

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    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/bid-to-safeguard-former-st-bernards-fc-ground-in-city-1-4083629

    Posted 8 years ago #
  15. crowriver
    Member

    TBH, the campaigners seem to be classic NIMBYs in the New Town mould. I can imagine they will be unsuccessful.

    The main point of concern for this forum would be that a cycle route runs through this area, from the NCR75 and the NCN onto Royal Crescent and thence to points westwards.

    If the new development goes ahead, might there be scope for building a shared use path somewhere within it, rather than the current 'quiet route' along Royal Crescent/Fettes Row, which, while quiet, still has motorised traffic traversing it.

    Satellite image of area here:

    https://goo.gl/maps/mXo85ce5b272

    Posted 8 years ago #
  16. gembo
    Member

    Could call it st Bernard's fc safe cycle route?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  17. chdot
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    But campaigners say almost ten times as many houses could be built in the area if a series of other applications are approved.

    And now they have launched Save Our South East Wedge (SOSEW) in a bid to highlight the problems they believe that would create, including major traffic congestion, serious air pollution, difficulties in finding doctors and a shortage of school places.

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    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/broomhills-houses-just-the-tip-of-the-iceberg-residents-fear-1-4096287

    Posted 8 years ago #
  18. PS
    Member

    Segregated cycle facilities on the A701 and Frogston Road (there is ample space on both), in line with the Council's street design guide should ease those congestion concerns...

    Posted 8 years ago #
  19. chdot
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    A RUSH of house building could see up to 6000 homes built across just five square miles of Edinburgh, it emerged today, with the city council accused of losing control and creating a development “free for-all”.

    A new map and research by the Evening News and the Save Our South East Wedge (SOSEW) campaign group shows the dramatic extent of proposed housebuilding in the south-east of the Capital for the first time.

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    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/6000-homes-planned-for-south-east-edinburgh-1-4103081

    Posted 8 years ago #
  20. chdot
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    RESIDENTS fear a rush of housebuilding in the south-east of the city will be a “disaster” for local health services, roads and schools.

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    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/edinburgh-residents-fear-housing-boom-s-infrastructure-impact-1-4106688

    Posted 8 years ago #
  21. chdot
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    COMMUNITY councils have thrown their weight behind a major housing development planned for greenbelt land on the outskirts of the Capital.

    Proposals for the first phase of the so-called Garden District would see 1350 homes built beyond the city bypass in west Edinburgh.

    Now Balerno and Cramond and Barnton community councils have both written in support of the scheme, insisting it is “well planned and well integrated”.

    They also argue it will help reduce pressure to grant “highly contentious” plans to build houses on Cammo Fields, which residents insist would cause major traffic problems.

    "

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/garden-district-housing-plan-wins-over-community-councils-1-4127122

    Posted 8 years ago #
  22. The Boy
    Member

    Would that be Balerno CC that is fighting developments on its own patch?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  23. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Anyone would think that they are supporting something outwith their own areas to try and deflect developments within their own areas...

    "This is fantastic! For a start, it's far away from us!"

    NIMBYBISEBY

    (Not In My Back Yard But In Someone Else's Back Yard)

    Posted 8 years ago #
  24. The Boy
    Member

    Pretty much where I was coming from @Kaputnik.

    The very worst kind of nimbyism.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  25. acsimpson
    Member

    "They also argue it will help reduce pressure to grant “highly contentious” plans to build houses on Cammo Fields, which residents insist would cause major traffic problems."interfere with their desire to always drive everywhere and never take passengers.
    or perhaps more truthfully
    spoil their view.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  26. chdot
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    Developer Murray Estates – owned by former Rangers chairman Sir David Murray – previously said the ambitious scheme would create a “world class extension to the nation’s capital”.

    But critics have blasted it as an unwelcome intrusion into valued greenbelt land.

    The blueprints will go before full council next month to be ratified – and will also need to be referred to the Scottish Government.

    Council chiefs stressed the masterplan was at an early stage and could be altered to improve access and transport links.

    "

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/massive-garden-district-development-is-given-go-ahead-in-edinburgh-1-4129711

    Posted 8 years ago #
  27. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    ... all been said above

    Posted 8 years ago #
  28. chdot
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    Jason Rust, Edinburgh’s Tory education spokesman, said it was crucial housebuilders were held to their obligations when it came to funding local schools in return for planning consent.

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    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/our-region/edinburgh/edinburgh-to-build-nine-new-schools-as-population-booms-1-4134346

    Posted 8 years ago #
  29. Tulyar
    Member

    Interesting detail from Leicester - traffic reduction and cycle pedestrian measures funded by reduced land-take through road removal and land sold/made available to developers. Income from development paid for cycle pedestrian and motor traffic reduction measures.

    Now ever noticed how un-busy the West Approach Road actually is? Corridor potential for rail/tram-train and development over/around?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  30. chdot
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    RESIDENTS are battling to stop construction of almost 200 new homes on greenfield sites on the edge of Gullane, warning the developments would put “huge pressure” on schools, transport and health services.

    Housebuilder Cala is expected to lodge formal planning applications later this month for two sites, known as Saltcoats Field, proposed for around 130 houses, and Fenton Gait East, which would have around 50 homes.

    But a group has already been launched to campaign against the proposals.

    Gullane in Opposition to Over-development (GOOD) spokesman Keith Anderson, said: “Gullane is an idyllic village, with a strong community feel, and this will turn us into a giant executive housing estate.”

    "

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/our-region/gullane-residents-battle-plans-for-200-new-homes-1-4150369

    Where do developers find all these executives to live in their houses?...

    Posted 8 years ago #

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