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"Pressure on green belt as 10,000 homes to be built"

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  1. Arellcat
    Moderator

    Where do developers find all these executives to live in their houses?

    The private sector.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  2. Snowy
    Member

    If it goes the same way as North Berwick, you just end up with expensive estates, plastered with SUVs, whose residents seldom visit the town centre and shuttle between home, the edge-of-town supermarket, and work in Edinburgh.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  3. chdot
    Admin

    "

    Recommendation 1

    The Mayor should include in the London Plan reference to Green Belt Policy (PPG2). To better support the objectives of the London Food Strategy, Draft policy 7.16 (Green Belt) should specifically state that food growing is one of the most beneficial land uses in the Green Belt. Draft policy 7.16 should also include a requirement for boroughs to give added weight to food growing as one of the most productive activities in the Green Belt when preparing policies for their Local Development Frameworks.

    "

    http://www.lvga.co.uk/lea-valley-growers-win-national-awards/the-future-of-the-lea-valley-glasshouse-industry/

    Posted 8 years ago #
  4. chdot
    Admin

    "

    As well as concerns about technical matters such as air quality, archaeology, noise and ground conditions, planning officials said there was insufficient evidence to prove that 770 homes could actually be built there. They have recommended that councillors reject the plans when they are debated later this week.

    One of the reasons given is that the council rather than the developer, Sheraton Ltd, still owns the land.

    "

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/our-region/edinburgh/edmonstone-estate-plans-set-to-be-thrown-out-by-council-1-4163534

    Posted 8 years ago #
  5. chdot
    Admin

    Might be an appropriate time to post this -

    Posted 8 years ago #
  6. chdot
    Admin

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    MAJOR plans to build hundreds of new homes and a primary school on farmland in the south-east of the Capital have been stalled after the developer went bankrupt.

    "

    Read more: http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/our-region/edinburgh/edmonstone-home-farm-plan-on-hold-after-developer-goes-bankrupt-1-4166946#ixzz4DFkKVJIz

    Posted 8 years ago #
  7. chdot
    Admin

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    CONTROVERSIAL plans for new housing on greenbelt land look set to go ahead after the Scottish Government issued its judgement on Edinburgh’s Local Development Plan.

    Campaigners battling proposals for tens of thousands of homes on sites such as Cammo and Maybury said they had been left “devastated” by the 886-page verdict.

    It insists Edinburgh is facing a “significant shortfall” in housing over the next five years – requiring more homes to be built every year than “anything historically achieved even in the most positive economic circumstances”.

    "

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/our-region/edinburgh/cammo-maybury-devastated-as-holyrood-approves-housing-plan-1-4170348

    Posted 8 years ago #
  8. chdot
    Admin

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    CAMPAIGNERS battling plans for more than 1000 houses on greenbelt land are threatening to take the council to court.

    The Save Brunstane Greenbelt Campaign (SBGC) said they had taken “initial legal opinion” and had a “very strong case” for challenging development.

    "

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/our-region/edinburgh/brunstane-campaigners-seek-legal-advice-on-greenbelt-plans-1-4171402

    Posted 8 years ago #
  9. chdot
    Admin

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    Judy Wightman, treasurer of Ratho community council, said: “We know nothing about it except that we’ve had a letter saying there is a proposal of application notice.

    “We know absolutely nothing and we have had no consultation.

    “At the moment we have just so many developments in the area. It’s really quite scary. There are so many brownfield sites they can develop in Edinburgh.

    “Why do they have to develop on [the] green belt? It’s green belt, and it’s not included in the emergent LDP.”

    "

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/our-region/edinburgh/250m-farmland-village-in-pipeline-for-west-of-capital-1-4176166

    Posted 8 years ago #
  10. chdot
    Admin

  11. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    Fountainpark for golf? Hold me back

    Posted 8 years ago #
  12. chdot
    Admin

    Definitely NOT green belt

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    DETAILED plans have been lodged for a 425-home development on wasteland opposite Ocean Terminal.

    CALA Management wants to build flats, colonies-style properties and townhouses at the former industrial dockland site in Leith – transforming a long-neglected corner of the Capital.

    "

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/colonies-housing-plan-beside-ocean-terminal-in-leith-takes-shape-1-4186648

    Posted 8 years ago #
  13. chdot
    Admin

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    It continued: “Sasa’s land needs to be protected from breaches to plant health condition through substantial pressure from walkers, domestic pets adversely affecting crop trails, litter and surface water run-off associated with 
sub-urbanisation.”

    "

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/our-region/edinburgh/major-greenbelt-housing-development-in-doubt-following-complaints-1-4215416

    Posted 8 years ago #
  14. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Now, I'm no supporter of the garden district idea, but I'm pretty sure that before it was at Roddinglaw, the predecessor to SASA was at East Craigs, right next to a large housing estate on two sides and a large school on another.

    It had a fence.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  15. wangi
    Member

    Planning app was submitted yesterday for 1330 housing units + others on the Brunstane fields: 16/04122/PPP

    Docs: https://twitter.com/talkporty/status/770574842571722756 / https://www.dropbox.com/sh/pjcr0zheravt0p4/AAA3BrN8IG9qf1dsqhnyU-XOa?dl=0

    16/04122/PPP | Proposed residential development (including class 8 residential institutions, class 9 houses and sui generis flats) primary school (class 10 non-residential institutions) local centre (including class 1 retail, class 2 financial and professional services, class 3 food and drink, class 10 non residential institutions and class 11 assembly and leisure ), green network, means of access and transport links, infrastructure and associated ancillary works. | Land 445 Metres North Of 103 Newcraighall Road Edinburgh

    Posted 8 years ago #
  16. acsimpson
    Member

    @Kaputnik,

    Yes, houses/school on 3 of the four sides.

    It's also worth noting that the old land was sold for housing so rather hypocritical of them to now be telling someone else not to build on green fields.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  17. kaputnik
    Moderator

    @acsimpson perhaps they could ask that the developer be made to put up a pet-proof fence along the boundary.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  18. HankChief
    Member

    The question I have is, will only the impact on the SASA fields or can the Transport issues be considered?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  19. Greenroofer
    Member

    @HC - I have it on good authority from people who know (professionals in the field) that the whole thing is up for discussion, not just the transport issues. Given that you've done your fair share of campaigning recently, I'll take the lead on this one...

    Posted 8 years ago #
  20. chdot
    Admin

    "

    Developer EDI – an arms-length council company – wants to construct 1330 houses, a school and leisure facilities over a 48-hectare site known as Brunstane Farmland.

    But community campaigners are gearing up to launch legal action in a bid to halt the proposals – and are now crowdfunding advice from a top QC.

    They argue the overarching South-East Scotland Plan (SESplan) “clearly designates” Brunstane Farm as green belt, meaning any development would be “breaking the law”.

    "

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/our-region/edinburgh/greenbelt-homes-plans-lodged-with-council-1-4218542

    Posted 8 years ago #
  21. Muirwoods
    Member

    @Hankchief

    Scottish Government's assessment of the case includes

    potential impacts on infrastructure
    so it looks as though SASA is main issue but others are to be considered.

    Assessment is available here Planning and Architecture Division Assessment Report

    Hope that link works, this is my first post here!

    Posted 8 years ago #
  22. HankChief
    Member

    Thanks @Muirwoods & welcome.

    I'd not seen that - the link works.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  23. chdot
    Admin

    Welcome

    You don't have to just post useful stuff...

    Posted 8 years ago #
  24. Muirwoods
    Member

    Thanks! I can promise to be useful only some of the time ;)

    Posted 8 years ago #
  25. chdot
    Admin

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    But with the Scottish Government estimating more than 25,000 extra homes are needed by 2026, many see it as an inevitable result of the Capital’s booming population.

    "

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/our-region/edinburgh/portobello/plans-reveal-2500-homes-to-be-built-in-portobello-transformation-1-4227666

    25k - some inflation of title of this thread.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  26. neddie
    Member

    Build it and they will come.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  27. chdot
    Admin

    Lost in numbers.

    Today -

    "

    We have ambitious plans to expand the council-led housebuilding programme to 8000 new homes and will invest in improvements that reduce the cost of living for tenants.

    Also, the city’s housing associations have agreed to match the council’s output with a further 8000 new homes – that’s 16,000 new homes in Edinburgh by 2022.

    "

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/opinion/councillor-frank-ross-capital-must-get-behind-concept-of-living-wage-1-4227975

    This is what started this thread (Sept 2013) -

    "

    It is understood the Capital will have to find space for as many as 5000 of more than 10,000 extra homes needed to meet the Scottish Government’s building targets set for 2024.

    "

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/pressure-on-green-belt-as-10-000-homes-to-be-built-1-3110345

    Posted 8 years ago #
  28. mgj
    Member

    Alternatively, we could meet our climate change targets by focussing on stabilising or reducing rather than increasing our population since we seem to be incapable of creating a society that doesn't significantly impact on the planet through the choices it makes about where it expects people to live, work and shop.

    The human population can no longer be allowed to grow in the same old uncontrollable way. If we do not take charge of our population size, then nature will do it for us and it is the poor people of the world who will suffer most - David Attenborough

    Posted 8 years ago #
  29. chdot
    Admin

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    The continuing scarcity of affordable housing in Scotland is a visible indictment of our unfit-for-purpose systems of land ownership, planning and taxation – yet there’s little likelihood Scottish Government reforms will correct the situation and even less that the media will investigate that failure.

    "

    http://www.scotsman.com/news/opinion/lesley-riddoch-prince-charles-getting-it-wrong-on-scots-housing-1-4227473

    Posted 8 years ago #
  30. chdot
    Admin

    "

    Residents-turned-campaigners told the Sunday Herald they were disillusioned and exhausted by fighting plans that went against the democratic process.

    ...

    Mark Ruskell, Green MSP, said the local community had lost faith in the planning system and felt "stuck in the middle". "There have been repeated attempts to develop the site," he added. "In response local development plans have been enabled by the local council and its put in place a strong green belt. Now we have someone coming along who says "I don't care about the democratic process", and just decides to push it through."

    ...

    Angus Hardie, director of the Scottish Community Alliance, said reform was needed to make the planning process more democratic.

    "

    http://m.heraldscotland.com/news/14749843.Locals_hit_out_as_Judy_Murray_and_Ann_Gloag_are_engaged_in_furious_battle_over_development/

    Posted 8 years ago #

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