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  • Started 11 years ago by gdm
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  1. gdm
    Member

    Ok, the title is only semi-relevant but it was too good not to use.

    Anyhoo - late yesterday afternoon I got involved in a 'heated debate' with one of our new intake at the office, a bright young thing who you would imagine was into environmentalism, encouraging us all to act more responsibly and saving the planet.

    Turns out she couldn't give a sh*t about the planet.

    The general theme of the debate was that she had a right to drive her car whenever and wherever she wanted to and as inefficiently as she wanted to. She didn't believe in climate change and felt that even if it was true, she'd be dead before the worst of it kicked in. And even if it was true and impacting on people NOW (and, yes, I did point out that it rather is) she would prefer to have the comfort and convenience of her Corsa than having to either get public transport or get wet/sweaty by cycling. It was all very much reminiscent of Charlton Heston's "from my cold dead hands!" speech for the National Rifle Association.

    Anyway, I came in to the office this morning to find out that at the exact same time she was eulogising about her eternal right to drive, her precious car - which she had parked outside the office on the QBC! - was being towed away.

    That, my friends, is £180 worth of karma.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  2. That is worth at least one :), but also probably several :D

    Posted 11 years ago #
  3. ARobComp
    Member

    I believe the term is "What a Belter"

    Love it when things like this happen. Heh.

    In a similar vein my colleague who suggests cycling is a waste of time or too dangerous/expensive a "hobby" is currently fighting 3 or 4 parking tickets and actually selling her car because people keep reversing or running into it when it's parked.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  4. twq
    Member

    Brilliant.
    On the point of believing in climate change (as an Earth Scientist myself), a certain quote by Neil deGrasse Tyson comes to mind - "The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it."

    Posted 11 years ago #
  5. kaputnik
    Moderator

    'mon the council! (finally)

    Posted 11 years ago #
  6. Baldcyclist
    Member

    "The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it."

    Yes and no, plenty of debate in countless fields of science. Someone produces a paper, someone else refutes it. Years later it's found out to be complete tosh - not a reference to climate change per say, just science in general. What you thought was true often isn't.

    Interesting debate on Statins last night, Prof from Oxford of opinion everyone over 55 should be on them. 'Jobbing' GP totally against widespread use, both quoting data to prove their point.

    But the Karma, :)

    Posted 11 years ago #
  7. amir
    Member

    The GP last night didn't seem to be quoting more than anecdotal evidence. There is a difference between good and bad science. Also evidence is built up in different ways according to context.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  8. 559
    Member

    @gdm That is karma+

    Doesn't happen often, worth milking

    What could you buy for £180........ 12weeks of Lothian bus Ridacard.......basic bike.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  9. fimm
    Member

    Brilliant!!!
    (I hope that you are suggesting that she cycle to work until she gets her car back...)

    Posted 11 years ago #
  10. Coxy
    Member

    To someone like that, you could never reason the benefits of active travel or public transport using any kind of altruistic criteria.

    The only argument is one they can see would benefit them and outweight their own negative arguments.

    Less parking tickets
    Get there faster
    Arse less fat
    etc
    etc.

    But I always love a good dose of instant karma!
    :D

    Posted 11 years ago #
  11. DaveC
    Member

    Brilliant!!!
    (I hope that you are suggesting that she cycle to work until she gets her car back...)

    Yeh point her in the direction of the Bike Station! :D

    Posted 11 years ago #
  12. gdm
    Member

    @DaveC - Yeah, I sent her a google map route from the office to the Bike Station.

    Would have been an 18 second journey if she'd still had her car.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  13. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Beyond cost of food increases, I don't recall the cost of cycling "spiralling" or "rocketing" in recent years.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  14. crowriver
    Member

    I don't know why anyone would expect folk in their late teens and twenties to necessarily want to save the planet. Having only just asserted their independence from parental control, they'll likely defend their chosen identity regardless of what anyone says to contradict them. Also don't misundersestimate ((c) Dubyah) people's potential to be complete and utter hypocrites. Especially if they're rebellious or someone else is trying to tell them what to do/how to behave/what's good for them.

    If the general populace is anything like I was at that age, they are almost completely wrapped up in their own problems. Of course many folk are still like that when they retire... What reassures me to some extent is that despite the 'values' widely propagated in our capitalist society, so many young people are in fact very principled, decent and generous.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  15. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Wonderful karma story today.

    The usual office suspect (the one with speeding, driving using mobile phone, driving through red light, failing to pay a statutory fine on his record) was sitting near me on Wednesday and decided to start his whole anti-cycling nonsense in an effort to get a rise out of me.

    Thursday morning he hits a vehicle near Kirknewton, which becomes lodged on the level crossing forcing cancellation of all rail services on the line while it is cleared and the Transport Police breathalise everyone. To make it even better (worse) he was on his way to an office community investment-type day in West Calder, and half of the office trying to get the train from town out had to cancel.

    I'm not the only one queuing up to rub his nose in it the next time he sits near us again.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  16. Min
    Member

    Ah, I love the smell of schadenfreude in the morning. :-)

    Posted 9 years ago #
  17. Sounds like he railly needs some driver training.

    Posted 9 years ago #

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