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Posted 11 years ago #
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A 25-year-old man has been knocked off his bike after colliding with a car in Edinburgh."
Well that covers the options(?)
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I'm impressed they got the news article up within 13 minutes of it apparently happening. Can only assume that the journo in question was on the scene if they have already established that it was the cyclist that collided with the car.
Grumbling at the BBC aside, I very much hope this is something minor.
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Wide and straight road, but I only use it once in a blue moon as the approach to the roundabout at Lochend is horrible.
Posted 11 years ago # -
Ah. On my usual route. Came past about 0910 when no cycle was visible, just a car, some people, some police and fire engine.
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What I find particularly irksome is that it is always the cyclist has collided with a car. Invariably it is the other way round, the car has collided with the cyclist. The sooner we have stricter liability legislation the better, is all I can say. If a cyclist does collide with a car it is, in my experience, usually because the car has pulled out into the path of a cyclist. Also how can you be knocked off your bike if you collided with a car? You would have fallen off, come off but not been knocked off, therefore suggests to me that the car collided with the bike.
I am just nitpicking and being pedantic.
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Cars "leave the road" or "end up on their roof".
Cyclists and young children "collide with cars".
Can be found in pretty nearly any BBC News article about road traffic accidents.
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The BBC have done this consistently for years - it's obviously part of a house style that applies when vulnerable road users are knocked down, as there's no way the same journos can possibly be writing all of the articles (and that consistently).
In other news, a man was injured in Edinburgh when he collided with a knife being carried by another man.
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when he collided with a knife being carried by another man
Seems to be the view of law too sometimes. March in Burntisland last weekend over someone walking free (claimed self defence) after stabbing someone to death.
The accused went to a house to confront someone, with a knife, and managed to argue self defence after he killed him?
Posted 11 years ago # -
"Invariably..."
If we're being nitpicking and pedantic.... ;)
"If a cyclist does collide with a car it is, in my experience, usually because the car has pulled out into the path of a cyclist."
Dave of this parish has a funny video of him colliding with a bus. To his credit entirely his own fault.
And I've posted a video of me myself and I colliding with a car before. Again, 100% my fault (shifting from filtering on the left to the right without properly checking what the traffic was doing).
Granted, it'll be the minority (I tihnk it's safe to say), but does suggest there's some variability there. :P
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@WC, silly WC, fancy not checking properly :-P, :-D. Touch wood I have never collided with another vehicle but then again I probably don't cycle fast enough to have to think that quickly, other than once into the side of a car that overtook me and did an immediate left turn! I have fallen off my bike whilst filtering very, very, very slowly, so slowly, in fact, that I could not maintain the upright position and fell between two cars. What a twat I felt, especially when the very concerned driver leapt out of his car to ask me if I was okay, not at all concerned that I might have scratched or dented his car when I clattered to the ground, held firmly in place by my toe clips!
Posted 11 years ago # -
I digress with all this levity. BOT, I hope the cyclist concerned in this article is okay, and not seriously injured. As with the cyclist in Fife yesterday.
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Wide and straight road, but I only use it once in a blue moon as the approach to the roundabout at Lochend is horrible.
I use it quite a bit. (Though not at rush hour.)
The road is pretty cracked up on the side opposite the back of the stadium.
The roundabout should be ok as long as everyone respects the right of way.
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"The roundabout should be ok as long as everyone respects the right of way."
I think my biggest problem with it is that it seems from every approach that there's a good line of sight, but actually once you're at the point of entering it's obvious the line of sight isn't great, or that other traffic has come onto the roundabout far too quickly because the driver thought there would good sightlines.
It's funny, cos I actually like roundabouts, use them all the time, and Sherrifhall is included, but there's something about that one spooks me.
Might just be lack of use of course!
Posted 11 years ago # -
You might have a point. I use it when it's pretty quiet, so it's always going to seem safer.
I usually come from the Marionville Rd end (to the west), and the lines of sight are ok.
I just looked at streetview from the Lochend Rd approach and there's a tree partly blocking the view of Marionville Rd and the Marionville Avenue traffic is at a strange angle where it'd be hard to tell whether it was going left, or using the roundabout.
With a lot of traffic, it could be dangerous.
Posted 11 years ago # -
The 25-year-old man was hit by a car
Its better than the BEEB any way.
Posted 11 years ago # -
"Trapped under a car... ...did not require hospitalisation". That's probably the best outcome for what had been a horrible and potentially fatal scenario.
Posted 11 years ago # -
@ Dave
"The BBC have done this consistently for years - it's obviously part of a house style..."
Another part of that house style I see is on their RSS news feed. Almost daily, you can guarantee that one of the headlines will feature the word "deadly" as in "Deadly blast...", "... in deadly bus crash" etc. It seems to be their favourite word to describe anything fatal.
Posted 11 years ago # -
I'm just thankful the EEN/Scotsman don't allow comments for articles like that. Imagine the thoughtless rubbish flowing from certain keyboards.
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