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  1. minus six
    Member

    That all-important horsesheeet update:

    Couldn't see it on the way back to the kingdom but i could smell it around my bike for ten minutes after passing it, so it must have liquified all over the path this afternoon.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  2. TractorFactory
    Member

    Horsesheeet update:
    Tis infact still there, passed it this morning. For information, it's just at the bottom of the newly tarmacc'd big heading Fifewards, just before the barrier drops away and you go side by side the A90.

    Looks to have been hit a few times and the rain certainly helped yesterday.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  3. Focus
    Member

    It's all very well saying horse manure is "lovely and organic" but if it attracts flies it's "health rating" will rapidly plummet, especially if they lay eggs in it.

    There appears to be quite a spread of manure on the NEPN around Ravelston, although it's been dissipating the last couple of days. As far as I'm concerned, riders should be clearing it up out of responsibility if not legal requirement. And that goes for Police officers too!

    Posted 10 years ago #
  4. SSR
    Member

    Being raised in the country horse manure doesn't worry me as I know it is harmless. It was a bit of a surprise to see it on the path but I haven't found it to be a hazard or paid much attention to it. Really it is no more harmful than mud.

    That being said, it is another example of how this route isn't really maintained (swept). As part of NCN1 I would have hoped for regular sweeping and vegetation maintenance but this only seems to happen once a year?

    Come the warmer months I will start packing secetaurs to do a bit at trimming when time allows. I almost came acropper a couple of times last year due the overhanging branches and brambles.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  5. minus six
    Member

    has the A90 path reopened today ?

    Posted 10 years ago #
  6. TractorFactory
    Member

    It has re-opened.

    I thought the single week closure was too good to be true. Looks like they've just cut away a lot of trees and vegetation. I suspect there could be a more lengthy closure coming later in the year.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  7. minus six
    Member

    thanks for the heads up

    i think this stage was always billed as prep work

    Posted 10 years ago #
  8. skotl
    Member

    Gave myself a hell of a fright tonight, through my own rampant stupidity.

    I forgot to charge my big light this morning (a Monday morning charge gives it 5 nights' worth, but I've been off the bike for a few weeks so it was pretty much drained).
    Light lasted to the Cramond Inn then gave out, leaving me with my £5 (read useless) spare.

    So I'm heading past burnshot, peering into the darkness for the tree canopy so that I know when I'm about to enter the trees and suddenly find myself off-roading, heading for a treestump.
    Had completely forgotten they'd chopped the bloody things down. Came to a screeching halt in the mud, 1ft from the tree stump and happy that my panic cleat disengage worked.

    Nae fun heading up there, along the A90 and up toward the Ferry with a useless front light :(

    Posted 10 years ago #
  9. chdot
    Admin

    "
    The City of Edinburgh Council, in partnership with Sustrans and Transport Scotland, is developing a scheme to enhance the pedestrian and cycle path that parallels the A90 between the Burnshot and Dalmeny junctions. We are improving the path in five sections (see attached plan) and are currently developing designs for Sections 2 and 3 which we plan to have constructed in early 2015. The work in Sections 2 and 3 will involve widening and resurfacing of the existing path to provide a high quality shared path.

    Some path users have commented about the problem of vehicle headlight glare on the path. This glare mainly affects path users travelling in the northbound direction along Section 3 and potentially some of Section 4. We want to consult with path users to determine the extents of this potential problem and to receive feedback on design options.

    Please find our online questionnaire at http://surveymonkey.com/s/HFGTDWB. This survey closes on Friday 2 May at 12.00pm.

    Please feel free to circulate this information and questionnaire within your organisation or to any contacts you have who may use the A90 pathway or be interested in the project.

    "

    Posted 10 years ago #
  10. DaveC
    Member

    Yes I spoke to the chap on the side of the A90. Gave him a lot of info frpm various posters on here. I mentioned cce and he confirmed that he had emailed you chdot.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  11. cb
    Member

    Useful info in that survey. I voted for option 3.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  12. DaveC
    Member

    Oh forget to mention that the chap from the council recons the upgrade to section 5 (Burnshot) will take around 16 weeks!

    Posted 10 years ago #
  13. minus six
    Member

    I'm impressed by that lengthy closure if it means the job gets done well.

    On the survey i've gone for 3-2-1. But I expect the survey does not carry that much weight and that they will implement number 2 regardless.

    and my comment:

    Glare is especially significant in the rain. There is a severe drainage problem following heavy rain at the side of the A90 at section three. Lorries and buses cause cyclist to be drenched under a waterfall at the same time as being blinded by oncoming headlights. LED lights would not help with that double problem.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  14. cb
    Member

    I would hope that if they implement number 2 then they would do it in such a way that the anti-glare screens could easily be added at a later date.

    Maybe the drivers on here should complain to the council about getting dazzled by bike lights. Then we might get the anti-dazzle barrier funded from the road budget.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  15. SSR
    Member

    I opted for 1(no barrier), 3(barrier with anti-glare), 2(barrier only). I was concerned that the proximity of the barrier when there were glare problems could actually be more dangerous especially if two cyclists are passing from opposite directions. The barrier on the already completed section really is rather unpleasant and uncomfortable to ride next to, I think most cyclists give it plenty of clearance even when passing and if effectively narrows the path significantly due to this.

    I had real problems with glare on that path in wet weather at first but found that superbright lights and a cap helped with that a lot. Overall I'd prefer the extra width that doing without barriers would provide.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  16. zesty
    Member

    Went with option 2-3-1.

    Don't think they'll ever go down the anti-glare route.
    Definetly need a barrier, no matter if it narrows the path a bit.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  17. minus six
    Member

    Option 2 would be a reasonable compromise *if* the drainage is extensively improved

    Posted 10 years ago #
  18. Instography
    Member

    16 weeks! A summer of riding through the estate then.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  19. DaveC
    Member

    ... and that steep hil!!

    Posted 10 years ago #
  20. acsimpson
    Member

    I opted for 2,1,3. Personally I find the oncoming bike lights far worse than the car lights. The installation of anti glare extensions would make this section even darker and make oncoming floodlights an even greater issue.

    I'm a fan of the barrier in theory although if the path was 3m wide currently it might not feel quite as necessary.

    The only real solution is for the council to add lights to the road but as these would be funded from the cycle budget not the road budget I can't see it happening soon.

    Can anyone explain where the extra 20cm comes from in the two options with barriers?

    Posted 10 years ago #
  21. JohnS
    Member

    I also added a suggestion that they address the problem of water ponding on the carriageway in heavy rain. I've been drenched a couple of times heading north out of town. It seeps out from the large field at the top, down the path and onto the carriageway. Ah summer, it must be the estate and the steep hill, dodging the sheep poo! PS Watch out on the hill down to the A90 heading into town, from the estate entrance there are a three patches of broken bottles/ glass strewn across the path. Never seen so many cyclists this morning, shiny new bikes and hi-vis gear.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  22. crowriver
    Member

    16 weeks! A summer of riding through the estate then.

    Or turn off at Burnshot junction and hit the Kirkliston road, then Standingstane Road?

    Voted 2-3-1 also. Crash barrier very important on this at-grade section, even if the path ends up a bit narrower it will still be better than at present.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  23. minus six
    Member

    It seeps out from the large field at the top, down the path and onto the carriageway

    dats interesting, hadn't considered that as a possibility

    Posted 10 years ago #
  24. acsimpson
    Member

    I wasn't counting but there was certainly a higher than normal number of people heading into town. Most of the new faces seemed to ignore my good mornings.

    Building the supporting wall and then putting the path behind it is quite a challenge compared to last years filling a trench. I wonder if they'll manage it on time.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  25. cb
    Member

    "Or turn off at Burnshot junction and hit the Kirkliston road, then Standingstane Road?"

    Or the Craigies Farm road, which although it is steep I'm sure when I measured on MemoryMap it is shorter with less ascent than the Dalmeny diversion.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  26. DaveC
    Member

    I have tweeted at North and West *_teams asking for the section of cycle alongside the A924 to be swept at the klower end to remove the mass of glass which has accumulated over the weekend.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  27. acsimpson
    Member

    I you do avoid Dalmeny though you loose the optional to go Down The Hill although I'm not sure whether it's worth it with the unsurfaced section just before The Brig.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  28. DaveC
    Member

    west_team‏@west_team·41m
    @DaveCxxxxxxx @north_team Dalmeny cycle path is within @west_team area, we've logged and the appropriate team will investigate, thanks ^D

    Posted 10 years ago #
  29. neddie
    Member

    Why does the crash barrier have to encroach on the cycle path? Why can't it encroach on the road? It's for the benefit of motorists after all, who can't be expected to not crash randomly.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  30. DaveC
    Member

    I'm sure roads have to have a fixed width depending on their classification. Cycle paths on the other hand....??

    Posted 10 years ago #

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