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closedFrom the Grauniad story, 'The minister said: "You simply cannot imagine Westminster abandoning the people of Scotland. '
Well this voter can certainly imagine it, if Scotland declares itself independent then any duty of care is over and England's sole concern will be to look after number one.
Westminster blinked first. I'm not sure how they could keep Trident here. The MoD backed away from the enclave idea almost as soon as it was floated.
"Westminster blinked first."
Certainly some sort of spin drift -
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SCOTS are poised to vote for independence unless a positive “sunshine strategy” is adopted by the Better Together campaign, the Lib Dem leader Willie Rennie warned yesterday.
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From above link -
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Former party treasurer Denis Robertson Sullivan said he was voting Yes because he wanted Scotland to stand on its own feet, following a similar announcement by former party chiefexecutive Andy Myles.
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Denis Sullivan used to run a 'public affairs' company that deliberately employed people from all main parties.
Spin drift.
Took a couple of seconds but I see what you did there.
Aye the Fib Dems are casting their net wider, running ideas up the flagpole to see if they'll fly, and other nautical metaphors, etc.
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Also -
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Spindrift is a southern English word, Spoondrift a northern or Scottish word. The Scottish word spoondrift can be used to describe fine snow that is blown off the hills by the wind.
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Just back from my first day's canvassing for Yes Scotland.
What was interesting was how many of the other volunteers were interested in Pedal on Parliament. So there is, I reckon, cross-over between the White Paper and cycling.
I only knew the snow meaning.
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MORE than 100 academics and policy makers will this week begin writing "a manifesto for a Common Weal Scotland", a blueprint for how an independent Scotland could emulate the Nordic nations.
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Ie an alternative to VisionSalmond.
Common Weal Scotland is an offshoot of the Jimmy Reid foundation, and it's been on the go for two or three years now;
There are many visions for an independent Scotland;
http://bellacaledonia.org.uk/indy-live/
http://radicalindependence.org/
the SNP's is but one amongst many. The media seem to be struggling with that concept - the 'King Salmond' line requires so much less thought and effort to report after all.
less thought and effort to report
Welcome to 21st century journalism.
"Ah, a press release. That's 10 column inches sorted, then." *copies&pastes*
Welcome to 21st century journalism.
Not really a new phenomenon. Used to be called 'hack' work.
Just makes up a higher proportion of 'news' these days than used to be the case?
There's a big (well, a dozen police cars) motorcade speeding down Causewayside just now. A head of state visiting? Another Tory flying in for the day to tell us off?
"motorcade speeding down Causewayside just now"
Project Fear's ultimate weapon - Prince Charles flown in for the day to warn that he may not wish to be King of an independent Scotland.
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EDINBURGH will suffer more than any other part of Scotland if there is a Yes vote in the independence referendum, Chief Secretary to the Treasury Danny Alexander has claimed.
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That doesn't surprise me. A ghetto of civil service jobs funded by the Aberdeen oil money.
'In an exclusive interview with the Evening News, Mr Alexander said: “The economy of Edinburgh is the part of the Scottish economy that benefits most from being in the UK.“The financial services sector, the insurance and pensions sectors are so strong in Edinburgh, serving customers across the whole of the UK, and it benefits from the strong and stable regulatory framework across the whole of the UK. Tens of thousands of jobs in Edinburgh depend on that.“It’s very clear that voting for independence would put an awful lot of those jobs at risk because you would be separating many of these companies from 85-90 per cent of their customers, in different regulatory regimes and different tax policies potentially.'
Absolutely.
"Absolutely."
Aye absolutely the biggest pile of horsecr@p any government has ever tried to sell to the populace, and they have had a multitude of attempts, the war for oil being one for example, SO this is all utter garbage, by the monied interests running westminster, nothing else, pure speculation at best, scare tactics at worst, its all starting to resemble the auld "its ma baw and your no playing" lines ye would get sometimes at primary school, ken what i like to say to them "bolt ya RADGE!". Yes please, coz i dont scare as easily as some folk.
Saor Alba Gu Brath ,
The Radgeworks.
@Radgeworks
We are indeed a timorous bunch of beasties if we fall for this line.
Danny Alexander is a messanger, a career PR man who used to punt trips up to the restaurant on the top of the Cairngorms for a living. Now he's in London, gets a lift to work in a limousine every morning and...gasp...rich people take him seriously and give him special messages to transmit to us. If we vote Yes, he's an unemployable nobody again. He and the rest of them have real skin in this game.
It takes bit of courage to step back and see this stuff as the panicky cloud of chaff that it is. Denmark, with its own little currency and queer language and a big rich neighbour to the South manages to be rich and happy. How does wee Danny explain that? Why is Denmark not crying out to be governed by the Germans? Check out what they have achieved on this socialist propaganda website;
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/da.html
Cracking bit of scaremongering by Alexander.
counterpoints -
(1) There is nothing to stop banks and insurance incorporating in london and servicing from edinburgh (or mumbai, or wherever).
(2) Regulation - he is havering - I presume the people of Jersey and the IoM dont have thriving financial services sectors?
Oh, hang on, that cant be right.....according to good old Danny, different regimes mean they must be a busted flush?
I work in Fin Servs. Jersey has its own regulation. Jerseys Fin Servs sector thrives.
This 'No' mob really have no idea how to run a positive campaign, do they!
There are many, many previously undecided or No voters who will jump the fence in the next few months because of this constant badgering.
A cynic might say that these are clear tactics to turn people to Yes voters.........because thats what Cameron and Osborne want to happen (but cant state in public).
@Nelly
I nearly wet myself laughing when Standard Life claimed to be freaked out by the prospect of independence.
I worked for them on Euro bonds domiciled in Dublin, Bahamas with-profits business...Hong Kong bonds...Canadian mutual funds. Utterly risible that they couldn't cope with selling Sterling products in England.
A cynic might say that these are clear tactics to turn people to Yes voters.........because thats what Cameron and Osborne want to happen (but cant state in public).
Yeees, it would explain the conduct of the No campaign, but -
- Scotland has an ever-decreasing number of Westminster MPs
- Scottish election results have very rarely had a decisive influence on which party gets to form a UK government
- British imperial power (nuclear weapons, UN security council, etc) would be somewhat threatened by the loss of Scotland.
Another explanation might simply be that Alastair Darling is less competent than the London politicos thought. Occam's Razor would tend to favour that one. Also No is at the moment still ahead in the polls so its campaign can't really be described as failing yet :-)
Mind you I was cheered to hear that David Cameron plans to do a lot more campaigning in Scotland after the Euro elections are over.
Frankly I'm a little disappointed in Alastair Darling, in the charisma stakes he's nowhere. Just as well that he's got the best arguments on his side.
Not according to his Tory bosses in London who backed away pronto from his second referendum in England idea this week.
I'm sure Darling will get his stoat scarf reward but why couldn't they get someone better to take the job? Did Call Me Dave expect to lose and couldn't find a more interesting fall guy?
@Nelly - a cynic like Limmy?
@Nelly
That's the point - Jersey financial institutions are regulated and headquartered in the "country" where they do most of their business. The concern about Scottish financial institutions is that is they would probably have to do likewise - move their headquarters to and be regulated in the country in which they do the bulk of their business i.e. England.
Nat West is already headquartered in England.
Citizens Financial is already headquartered in the USA.
Ulster Bank is already registered in Belfast and Dublin.
And so on.
And?
@Insto - I was making the point that the money flowing into Jersey institutions is not from Jersey in the main and that having local regulators is absolutely no barrier to doing 'international' business - most of which comes from England for them.
As has been stated many times, being HQ'd in London does not meant that jobs need to go there.
"As has been stated many times, being HQ'd in London does not meant that jobs need to go there"
Indeed.
Although the tax revenue will go to the HQ's country. Hence the wailing and gnashing of teeth over Google having their European HQ in Dublin, Amazon in Luxembourg etc.
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