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Ugliest Cars on the Road

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  • Started 11 years ago by Wilmington's Cow
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  1. wingpig
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    "I hate it even more when it is the indicator lights that are a string of tiny, well spaced out bulbs."

    I was behind one yesterday where the indicator was a teeny circle inside either the brake or rear light (couldn't tell which as it was stationary) which wouldn't be particularly discernible at middle-long distances, especially from behind a rainy/mucky windscreen.

    Not sure of the rules regarding car manufacturers' obligations for brightnesses/areas of brake lights and rear lights but I'm sure I've seen some where the brake lights appeared to be not much more than an increase in brightness of the main rear lights.

    @crowriver Hence the use of the similarly vulcanistic term "pyroclastic".

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  2. Its_Me_Knees
    Member

    Given its astronomical price, anyone who buys the absurdly ugly Porsche Cayenne wants their bumps feeling. Drivers tend to be short fat business types desperately trying to look macho/sporty/outdoorsy all at the same time. If only they appreciated that what they are driving looks less like a cruiser of the high sierras and more like a cartoon Trabant on steroids...

    http://www.moibibiki.com/files/images/images640_/porsche-cayenne-7.jpg

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  3. fimm
    Member

    Phew.....
    ;-)

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  4. My views on the Porsche Cayenne

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  5. Baldcyclist
    Member

    ".....We do recommend purchasers also consider a personalised number plate to put, shall we say, the cherry on top."

    Aw aw. ;-)

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  6. jdanielp
    Member

    "and a trip to the Nurburgring - I don't have a bucket list, but it would be on there if I did"

    it would probably be best to put that at the bottom of your bucket list WC, just in case...

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  7. kenny
    Member

    @wingpig, @crowriver

    I have a Kona Explosif which you must never look up the Portuguese translation for.

    Actually, I drew up beside somebody on a slightly newer one a year or two back and we "Ooh-ed" and "Aah-ed" at eachother's ancient, but classic, bikes.

    It's almost old enough not to pay any road tax on ...

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  8. fimm
    Member

    Ah! I think I was thinking of the Audi Q7. Even uglier than the BMW X6.

    (My boyfriend likes Audis. I think he'd own one if he could. Hopefully not a Q7...)

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  9. Cyclingmollie
    Member

    My children could (maybe still can - we don't all go out in the car together much these days) read the expressions on cars. Not just the obvious ones but ones that took a fair bit of imagination to see. Most fell into the category "cheesed".

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  10. neddie
    Member

    I detest the Range Rover Evoque (the 'baby' one) mostly because of the insanely narrow & high rear window, all done for 'fashion'. The visibility out the back must be worse than an HGV.

    Whenever I see the back end of one, the only thought that goes through my mind is 'How many kids could you line up behind that thing, and the driver be completely unaware they are there?'

    Another appalling example of fashion over safety.

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  11. kaputnik
    Moderator

    My children could... read the expressions on cars

    http://www.latimes.com/classified/automotive/highway1/la-hy-sinister-faces-pg,0,3053091.photogallery

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  12. "I detest the Range Rover Evoque (the 'baby' one) mostly because of the insanely narrow & high rear window, all done for 'fashion'. The visibility out the back must be worse than an HGV."

    Apparently a rear view parking camera is standard for this very reason. Seems ridiculous to design something that then requires this, but actually in practice means that the Evoque probably has rear visibility that exceeds most other cars on the market! (in the same way many understandably call for cameras to be standard on trucks)

    But. It's still hideous.

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  13. Min
    Member

    The last hire car we took had a blacked out rear window. Just WTF? The guy who we dealt with reckoned it wasn't a problem as he doesn't use the rear view mirror anyway. I suppose it is a pretty redundant feature for a lot of people. Along with the wing mirrors. And the windscreen in some cases.

    Almost as bad as the one we got where the speedometer was placed in front of the passenger so that my husband and I had to read each others speed.

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  14. Kenny
    Member

    My taste in cars is clearly "different". I like the BMW X6, the (new) Porsche Cayenne, but especially the Audi Q7.

    As for ugly, I'd go for the Mini Cooper (the one with the double doors on the back), Fiat Multipla, Renault Avantime, Nissan Juke, Pontiac Aztek.

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  15. I was asking for it really, starting this thread. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder... ;)


    Col d'Aspin by blackpuddinonnabike, on Flickr


    Bridger by Night by blackpuddinonnabike, on Flickr

    (though next time I'm not getting white - this is our third Mini, though first Clubman)

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  16. wee folding bike
    Member

    Almost as bad as the one we got where the speedometer was placed in front of the passenger so that my husband and I had to read each others speed.

    Wouldn't you both have more or less the same speed unless you were going round a corner?

    And, as well as the Juke obviously, any kind of jeep that's not a Defender looks silly. LED indicators are horrible because the do ON OFF rather than gently on off like a bulb. Alloy wheels, why?

    Wingpig, brakes and tail lights often use a dual filament bulb.

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  17. amir
    Member

    WC, the mini looks much prettier/ less ugly in the second picture but that due to the background. I think the top picture would look better without a car.

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  18. fimm
    Member

    Yes, the first photo lacks the strategically placed bicycle that demonstrates that the photographer rode the thing up there...

    (Sorry W.C., just being silly)

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  19. I refused to have my picture taken with the statue at the top of the Tourmalet until I'd cycled up. Seemed like cheating otherwise. Mountain pic was the best I had of the ugly double doors ;) (though shows the whole beauty/eye of beholder thing as the double doors are one of the selling points for me).

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  20. EddieD
    Member

    Not ugly, but very quirky - I saw a split window Morris Minor Convertible (279 FUO) in immaculate condition (i.e. rattling slightly) heading up Lothian Road this morning.

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  21. Another Clubman owner here and I love it! Much better than the usual droll offerings from most manufacturers. Quite practical too.

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  22. Certainly more practical than the hatch (though that never stopped us taking that to Italy, France and the Isles - our very first Mini we took on the Italian Job charity rally and it got driven on the rooftop Lingotto test track (which is now a hotel where we also stayed) and a couple of laps around Monza.

    Oh, the teeny little Aston Martin take on a Smart Car, that's horrible as well. Something about that grille and the Aston wings just doesn't fit.

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  23. wee folding bike
    Member

    I get the impression that Ford are getting an Aston Martin style grille. Looks odd on a Fiesta.

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  24. Kenny
    Member

    It's just as well for the car companies that we all like different things!

    I have major issues with the Mini for a variety of reasons, although a lot I suspect has to do with the first couple of people I knew who bought them, and how they went on and on about them. Not fair on the car, granted, but I now can't stand the sight of them, and that in my head makes them ugly. I have no idea if that makes any sense.

    The X6 on the other hand looks awesome for the reason that PS thinks it's awful. It's such a better looking car than the box-on-wheels that was the X5. Granted, it's not as amazing as a Nissan GT-R, which will literally stop me in the street if a black one goes past me (as one does occasionally in Leith), but it (the X6) ticks the boxes for me.

    I don't think I've ever met another person who likes the new model of the Cayenne. I think I even surprised the salesperson at the Porsche garage when I asked to have a look at it. Maybe the fact that I wasn't a short fat business type desperately trying to look macho/sporty/outdoorsy all at the same time confused him. ;)

    Going back to the air scoops, that would be pretty cool if I had an interest in getting a car like that. I don't; my mid-life crisis vehicle was a bicycle, but if it was a car, it would probably have an air scoop on it. Or be an Audi RS 6 Avant. Maybe I could get one installed on that?

    My wife's car has blacked out windows, and it's a nightmare to reverse in. I literally can't see out the back *at all* unless it's bright daylight. My car, on the other hand, also has blacked out windows, but I can see out clearly. I can only guess that blacked out window technology has changed? Mine is even harder to see through from the outside, too.

    In fairness, that 2nd photo above does make the Mini look less irritating than normal. I don't think it's quite changed my mind, though. The fact I can't see the double doors on the back helps.

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  25. Dave
    Member

    The X6 and Q7 both have that weird muscle thing going on at the front end. Not quite sure how to describe it other than there's "too much car" at the front between the bonnet and the road..?

    I don't rate cars very highly as a thing to spend on, but if I did, it would have to be a two-seater I think. However, this would be very unwise, for the same reason that I have banned myself from ever owning a motorbike...

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  26. neddie
    Member

    @WC.

    Your first pic would look even better if there was about 2ft of air between wheels & ground, as you crested that summit. ;-)

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  27. I took off in the hatch I had before that one on holiday in France once. Loads of level crossings about, all nice and flat and so on. Coming down a road to one I could have sworn I'd been over already so thinking nothing of it. Probably only came 6 inches or so off the ground at something like 25mph, but felt like we'd gone stratospheric. Weird feeling becasue you really do know that nothing is touching the ground.

    Similarly to mkns's issues with the Mini and Clubman, my big issues with urban SUVs comes, a lot of the time, from some of the people associated with them. Or... Maybe the fact that I wasn't a short fat business type desperately trying to look macho/sporty/outdoorsy all at the same time confused him. They seem to attract the "I'm better than yow, I have considerably more money than yow" type.

    With the Cayenne it goes a little further into feeling like Porsche are sullying their sporting heritage. While I'm not a 911 fan (I do like the look of the Cayman), they are "driver's" cars. The Cayenne feels like a sell-out to a middle-class meme. Obviously it's highly profitable for them to move into that market, and it's a commercial world where "who am I" to say they can't enter a different arena. But it still grates with me.

    Then again. Lamborghini made tractors.

    Staying with supercars, I've never been that bothered with Ferrari. Again there are the 'showy' connotations, but I also think they're a bit dull to look at. The Dino was gorgeous, but I think things hit a nadir with the Testarossa and F40. Return to form though, the new range is genuinely stunning (IMO).

    But I've always liked the more brutish Astons. The 80s AMV8 was just a beast.

    Americana, the modern Mustangs I can't stand.

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  28. PS
    Member

    Americana, the modern Mustangs I can't stand.

    Mustangs are another one where the modern version is just so much bigger than the original that it doesn't look right - the classic design is lost in the changes in proportion.

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  29. Greenroofer
    Member

    I've just seen a Mini Paceman for the first time. It's got Juke levels of hideousness.

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