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Not Ghost Bikes

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  • Started 11 years ago by Wilmington's Cow
  • Latest reply from kaputnik

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  1. Wasconfused walking to work this morning on seeing a couple of bikes chained to railings painted completely yellow. Odd ghost bikes thought I.

    Then saw another at Tollcross, and appears they're adverts for the Bike Station.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  2. kaputnik
    Moderator

    I saw the photos of them on Twitter, they've done 5 or 6. I tweeted back asking what a yellow bike meant.

    I saw one last night at the top of MMW. Thought it was a little bit inconsiderate to take up 1 of only 8 bike spaces with a yellow monstrobike...

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  3. Morningsider
    Member

    Saw the two by the Meadows this morning - wasn't sure what they were doing there. I'm assuming the Bike Station have consent for these, as they are very likely to fall within the definition of an advert that needs consent under the Town and Country Planning (Control of Advertisements) (Scotland) Regulations 1984. If not, then they have been very naughty and should remove them - and (as Kappers says) to clear valuable bike parking spaces.

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  4. wee folding bike
    Member

    I saw that in Dorset during the summer. The first time I thought ghost bike but after a few more I worked it out. The Dorset ones were white and lots of different shops seemed to use them.

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  5. SRD
    Moderator

    Greasemonkey's been doing similar.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  6. DaveC
    Member

    This appears to be a trend, as I have also seen a bike chained to a lamp post on Goldenacre Path on the north side of the WoL. Such a shame as these may be viewed as abandoned bikes littering the streets and cycle racks. If this become more common then it wil definately have a negative impact on the views of cyclists, leaving dead bikes littering the city.

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  7. kaputnik
    Moderator

    "Pedal Forth" cycles has a number of these down on the WoL path, but a bit more amateur looking signs on them.

    It is reminiscent of those businesses that get hold of freight or delivery bikes in Edinburgh and leave them parked outside the shop as a prop/advert. I find it slightly disingenuous to suggest that they use pedal transport with the bike outside when a lot of them surely don't. The bikes could be put to much better use as an advert rolling around town.

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  8. DaveC
    Member

    I see a couple of tbc white boards on the NEPN. I may take one down as a momento.

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  9. wee folding bike
    Member

    A similar thing happens with artic trailers in fields beside motorways.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  10. crowriver
    Member

    Presumably because these adverts are not 'permanent' structures but instead 'portable' or indeed 'vehicles' then it's a legal grey area?

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  11. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Tweet back; "a yellow bike meant to signify the lighter side of cycling... fun/hope etc."

    I replied that a yellow bike under a sodium lamp looks like a ghost bike...

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  12. Hmmmm. Difficult one. I think yellow is a little 'too' close to white (especially at night as you say). Red or purple or blue might have been better.

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  13. SRD
    Moderator

    hot pink or lime green might stand out. or would they be taken for hi viz...

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  14. Morningsider
    Member

    Pretty sure this isn't a legal grey area. The Regs state that adverts are exempt from the need to obtain consent if they are "displayed on or in a vehicle normally employed as a moving vehicle on any road...Provided that this exception shall not apply to advertisements displayed on any such vehicle or vessel during any period when it is being used primarily for the display of advertisements;"

    The bikes are being used primarily for adverts. I would argue this needs consent - the defintion of advert is very wide and could easily include bikes and the definition of vehicle includes non-motorised vehicles. I know it might not seem like it, but outdoor advertising in Scotland is pretty strictly controlled.

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  15. kaputnik
    Moderator

    red and yellow stripes would fit with their corporate colours.

    Posted 11 years ago #

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