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Jeremy Vine considers stopping cycling due to dangers

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  1. Focus
    Member

    Why do so many drivers want to kill me? Death threats. Near-misses. A run-in with Clarkson. Radio 2 host and (very scared) cyclist JEREMY VINE on the terrors he faces on the road

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    I want to say I was shocked by such unthinking driving. But after a year cycling on the roads of London — something I began only because I was sick of paying £80 a month to a gym I never visited — I was not remotely surprised.

    ...

    A few days ago, the speed-hungry Top Gear presenter Jeremy Clarkson posted a tweet which read: ‘It’s middle of the road point-makers like this who make car drivers so angry about cyclists.’

    It showed a picture of a cyclist innocently occupying the middle of the lane just short of a zebra crossing.

    ...

    So, in a state of fury and probably without thinking for long enough, I replied to Clarkson: ‘He has every right — you muppet.’

    This then triggered the Twitter equivalent of a brawl in a Wild West saloon, where anyone within earshot (in Twitter terms, the thousands of people who follow us both) felt free to throw chairs and tables around.

    I was told by several people that I ‘should not be on the road because you do not pay road tax’ (never mind that I do, on my car).

    Another tweeter said Clarkson ‘should have knocked the cyclist over because that spot is near a hospital’. One wrote: ‘Run him down like the dog in Lycra he is!’

    A few weighed in against Clarkson, but it was clear to me that he had won the argument in the eyes of the audience. Sure, on Twitter such a spat is entertaining. But take that hostility on to the road — put that angry mind in charge of a metal hulk on four wheels or even 12 — and it becomes a threat to the life of any cyclists."

    Not a fan of either Vine brother myself (though Jeremey is the lesser of two evils in my book, and infinitely better than Clarkson!). However, I sympathise with his feelings even though I wouldn't let the swines get me down or put me off cycling.

    (I notice that if you try to quote from the DM using copy/paste, you now get a whole lot of nonsense added about Facebook etc which this site doesn't like. Has to be edited out before posting).

    Posted 11 years ago #
  2. MeepMeep
    Member

    I seem to recall that Calumcookable of this forum membership made the decision to give up cycling, citing the dangers from other drivers as one of his reasons.

    I can well understand the thought process and temptation that leads people to jack it in. I go from anger and outrage that people hate the decision I've made to cycle and think that putting my life at risk for no sane reason is socially acceptable to thoroughly apathetic. Thankfully, cycling is a well-ingrained, beneficial (most of the time) habit. Beats £70 p/month in gym membership anyway.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  3. gibbo
    Member

    There's an article about Clarkson's tweet in the Guardian:

    http://www.theguardian.com/environment/bike-blog/2014/jan/13/jeremy-clarkson-cyclists-taking-the-lane

    Posted 11 years ago #
  4. Dave
    Member

    In fairness, I don't recommend to people that they take up cycling unless I don't know them well.

    I've said before that I'd be appalled at the idea of my parents or other close family buying bikes. I'm often uncomfortable about SWMBO riding places on her own (I don't know why I feel that my presence guarantees no homicidal driving, as it doesn't).

    Posted 11 years ago #
  5. crowriver
    Member

    I've actually stopped cycling on my commute to/from the train station. It was a very short trip anyway, which I now walk.* Although the journey to the station now takes a bit longer, it is less stressful and probably better exercise to boot.

    I still take the bike for longer journeys around town, which is mostly utility trips and getting to places as we do not own a car. I'm carrying on with audax too.

    It just no longer seemed to make sense to use the bike for this particular journey, it was largely a case of 'unnecessary' cycling at times when the roads are full of drivers in a rush.

    Being a pedestrian can be fine too, especially where trains are involved.

    * - unless I have quite a lot of heavy stuff to carry, in which case I revert to the bike.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  6. crowriver
    Member

    I've said before that I'd be appalled at the idea of my parents or other close family buying bikes.

    Many of my relatives own bikes, they just never use them. I'm perfectly fine about my immediate family (ie. partner, children) riding bikes. I wouldn't expect them to blast down a fast rural A road on an audax though (well, not yet anyway).

    Posted 11 years ago #
  7. cb
    Member

    " It was a very short trip anyway"

    How far out of interest?

    Posted 11 years ago #
  8. crowriver
    Member

    Just over a mile at each end of a train journey, so about four miles in total daily.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  9. Instography
    Member

    I've had a few people with short commutes ask me about cycling and I've always suggested walking instead, partly for safety and partly because if it's exercise they're after, brisk walking's better.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  10. KeepPedalling
    Member

    There may be an upside to this (I'm hoping!)

    Producer of Top Gear was interviewed on R2 Chris Evans yesterday. One question sent in from a listener was along the lines of "Why were Jeremy and James cycling through London yesterday? I was alongside them in a dustsweeper."

    Producer said "Oh - and you didn't turn left on them?"
    "Ah well the cat is out of the bag - yes they were cycling - we have decided to revive that great british tradition of public information films"

    So after Jeremy Vine calling Clarkson a "muppet" has he realised his ignorance and decided to educate his audience?

    Posted 11 years ago #
  11. SRD
    Moderator

    didn't someone here link to them doing a 'public education' film about level crossings? that one wasn't bad (well, it ridiculed hiviz...)... wonder what else is in the series.
    edit - hadn't realised this was (a) so long ago, or (b) so controversial - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6394845.stm

    http://www.britishrailways.tv/train-videos/2013-07/bbc-top-gear-level-crossing-safety-31107-is-propelled-into-a-car/

    etc

    Posted 11 years ago #
  12. Kim
    Member

    We need to kill the idea that the roads are for cars, they are not, they are for people, in what ever way they choose to travel.

    Also that there is a right to drive, there is no "right" to drive. Driving is only permitted by licence and that licence comes with responsibilities.

    Posted 11 years ago #

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