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Chdot and Wangi, thanks for the update. Those plans look very good! I still don't like the chicanes outside St Mary's, but at least they'll be moved away from the tactile paving. Trying to turn sharply on tactile paving is awful.
The paths look a bit narrow on Links Gardens look too narrow (4m wide, but segregated, so 2m for bikes, but it's biderictional, so 1m each way).
It goes the wrong way in Leith for me (I head to the Water Of Leith), but it looks good.
GreenerLeith's response: http://greenerleith.org.uk/blog/third-time-lucky-st-marys-primary-school-path-4699
The council contact running the consultation is Paul Mathews. You can email him at paul.matthews@edinburgh.gov.uk
Additionally, it’s recommended that you share your views with your local councillors. You can use http://www.writetothem.com to easily send them all the same message.
Just a reminder from previously -
Final... isn't final?
https://twitter.com/SustransScot/status/545884762876149760
Sustrans Scotland @SustransScot
@greenerleith Currently in phase 3 of the project to improve Leith-Porty route, phase 4 will look at section from Leith Links-Water of Leith
An update briefing note from CEC cycling projects:
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Links Gardens Lane
The majority of the responses received, as well as a consensus reached at the December 2014 Leith Links Steering Group, concluded a preferred design of a segregated 4m wide path; resulting in the removal of the willow tree. Please refer to Appendix 1 below.
Please note that additional tree planting is being provided across the Links as part of this scheme to compensate the tree loss and enhance the route and park area.
St. Mary’s Primary School entrance
Design proposals were presented and discussed at the Leith Links Steering Group on 17 December 2014 which included an option of surfacing the desire line which has established around the chicanes which is mainly used by bicycles.
As a result, a consensus was reached within the group to progress a design which included surfacing the existing desire line, as per Appendix 2 detailed below. It was also agreed that this additional path should use materials which have less environmental impact – of which reinforced grass was discussed and supported. Spokes and various stakeholders have since supported this proposal to cater for the cycle desire line.
Extension of route to the Water of Leith path
The Council intend to develop this route next financial year, 2015/16, with view for potential construction in 2016/17. This route will require significant changes to on-street parking which presents a risk to delivery.
Sharp corners where cycle paths intersect
The design has been amended to widen these areas and include a radius where required at bends and corners on the cycle route.
Extension of route to Easter Road at Thorntreeside to the Restalrig rail path
Unfortunately this route link is not currently a priority. However, the Council’s Family Network proposal, as outlined in the Active Travel Action Plan, includes extending the Restalrig rail path westwards towards Leith Walk. This is a long term aspiration and no timescales are yet available for this link.
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The construction works are planned to commence late March 2015 with a duration of approximately 6 weeks. Local path diversions will be in place and signed on site during the works.
Regarding the surfacing of the existing desire line around the St. Mary's chicane, this appears to be "Reinforced Grass", whatever that may be...
Any plans/maps?
this appears to be "Reinforced Grass", whatever that may be...
A concrete or plastic "frame" that supports the grass and earth, preventing (or restricting) erosion.
The concrete stuff (also known as "grasscrete") is awful for bikes as the gaps between the concrete nodes are the perfect wheel-swallowing size. It's also hard to install as you lay it like a slab, then plant the earth/grass in the gaps (or wait for it to naturally seed). It's really intended for making car parks appear less concretey, despite still being built out of concrete.
The plastic stuff is much better, it's a hezagonal matrix laid on the earth and pushed in, the grass growing up through the gaps..
Probably good/cheap/sensible for some desire lines too.
So infuriating that they refuse to consider the obvious - remove the chicanes. I would wager anything that no children would be harmed.
"So infuriating that they refuse to consider the obvious - remove the chicanes."
Parents at the school want them.
Infuriating that they didn't put in alternative path from the start.
They were told...
Lot of time (especially by 'volunteers') wasted and a certain loss of faith in 'experts' from CEC and Sustrans.
They will not encourage 'shared-use' by putting in inadequate infrastructure and saying 'it's fine, people will get used to it'.
'They will not encourage 'shared-use' by putting in inadequate infrastructure and saying 'it's fine, people will get used to it'.'
Wise comment as always.
I'm beginning to see the process that gets to where we are. Come up with a fairly inadequate idea of what the infrastructure should look like. Choose (frequently) shared use because it's perceived to be cheap and easy to implement. Scare the holy crap out of people because the cyclists are coming. Ask those people if they want safety measures to prevent the mayhem that the cyclists will bring (of course they say yes - who wouldn't? ) Complicate the design with 'calming measures', toucans, cyclists having to cross to the other carriageway to get to the path, dropped kerbs... Implement this mess and sit back and wonder why it isn't liked.
This reinforced grass sounds super slippy!
"This reinforced grass sounds super slippy!"
Can someone search Google to see if it's been used for 'cycle use' anywhere?
This website http://pavingexpert.com/grasspav.htm shows it being used mainly for car parking and driveways. Doesn't give me any confidence that it's suitable for cycling on, especially as a cyclist would be executing a turn in this location.
Looks like work on the Leith Links improvements may be starting soon. There's been a gathering of small earthmoving equipment and portacabins on the NE side of Leith Links and I also saw the following sign on the Path near St. Marys.
[url=https://flic.kr/p/tV5m9F]
New (unsealed at the edges) tarmac over the bridge today...
Also, presumably prompted by the arrival of the marathon, the builders of the new set of kiln-obscuring shoeboxes on Figgate Street have finally got round to putting back the inside edge of the prom tarmac, in matching red.
Also, I hope this is one of the lampposts they're going to take out, and that they take it out before attempting to lay tarmac around it, though with Crummock involved...
About time too! That bridge should have been resurfaced ages ago.
Looking forward to testing it out soon.
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