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Cramond to Porty boardwalk/promenade

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  1. HankChief
    Member

    The bairns look very young...

    How time flies...

    Posted 7 years ago #
  2. neddie
    Member

    Looking at chdot's photos, this could be an amazing world class and iconic route - pity the council have so little ambition

    Posted 7 years ago #
  3. chdot
    Admin

    "could be an amazing world class and iconic route"

    Indeed so, even with, perhaps especially because of, the mix of new and old, gleam and grime.

    Needs some basic basic stuff sorted like drop kerbs and signage, but the vision vision is stuck in the future.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  4. Klaxon
    Member

    Lower Granton Road is getting fixed by one of the AECOM/quietroute projects probably this financial year. So not no progress.

    Granton to Promenade will require a project along the lines of Seafield to Portobello Prom to widen the pavement to a good standard (in both cases pedestrian volumes low)

    And the docks... where to begin?

    I would be enthusiastic to come but can't make the 28th. 3/4 June is fine. Don't hold off on my account if there's a good crowd.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  5. chdot
    Admin

    @ Klaxon

    "So not no progress"

    This is true, though, as ever, it seems to be bits done randomly in isolation.

    I think it's time to ask for a review of both long term plan/progress and also of things that can be done 'quickly' - and if/why they need to wait for other projects/opportunities.

    You say "probably this financial year", report says -

    "

    Final designs will be completed in 2017.

    Subject to Committee approval and funding availability, the intention is to begin construction in 2017/18.

    "

    Which is either simple facts or cause for concern!

    Posted 7 years ago #
  6. chdot
    Admin

    Crucial site/development for another section of 'Waterfront route'.

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/our-region/edinburgh/granton/hundreds-of-affordable-homes-set-for-granton-site-1-4446612

    PoLHA have other properties along the way.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  7. SRD
    Moderator

    I'd recommend this to anyone interested in exploring the coastal route - my kids loved it, and I had a great time. it's a cool route, with lots to explore - even if you know some of it already.

    and despite the fact that I was by some distance the slowest, I never felt out of place.

    one the route/possibilities more generaly, all we need is some visionary politician to see the potential and adopt it as 'his' project. it would be fab.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  8. neddie
    Member

    I'm definitely interested in coming along, may even bring a mini-neddie on the taggy

    Posted 7 years ago #
  9. Arellcat
    Moderator

    and despite the fact that I was by some distance the slowest

    As I recall you did have good cause. And now you have a super-stoker to enlist on the big push up the Innocent tunnel!

    Posted 7 years ago #
  10. chdot
    Admin

    Suggestions so far

    28th. 3/4 June

    Any more no/yes/other?

    Posted 7 years ago #
  11. dessert rat
    Member

    28th or 4th for me.

    3rd we are going to Isle of May.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  12. Arellcat
    Moderator

    28th for me, but can do the 3rd/4th too.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  13. chdot
    Admin

    Of course if the Powderhall Line becomes the Powderhall Path, lots of scope for a range of circular routes.

    http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14986

    Posted 7 years ago #
  14. chdot
    Admin

    "

    The linear park along The Walk connects Waterfront Avenue with the coast and is a key landscape feature in creating a new residential community at Granton.

    Places for People kick-started the Waterfront revival ten years ago with completion of the first phase of their development known as Upper Strand.

    "

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/business/first-look-plans-for-89-new-homes-in-granton-revealed-1-4499431

    Posted 7 years ago #
  15. chdot
    Admin

    “I was also concerned that it wouldn’t support walking and cycling along the proposed Edinburgh Promenade, which runs alongside the docks. But now the proposal has been approved, I hope the developers will take these concerns on board, and will be responsible neighbours to local residents.”

    Conditions were added to the application dictating developers ensure full disabled access and the development of a foot and cycle path.

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/our-region/edinburgh/leith/leith-docks-permanent-new-home-for-luxury-floating-hotel-1-4601612

    Posted 7 years ago #
  16. cb
    Member

    Don't think I have seen this before:

    Granton and Cramond 1934 plan

    Silverknowes airport; River Almond sea place basin; lots of new roads/houses.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  17. chdot
    Admin

    Me neither, nor the book - Cramond Through Time.

    Glad the bay never got filled in!

    Posted 6 years ago #
  18. ejstubbs
    Member

    @chdot: Glad the bay never got filled in!

    Amen to that. These days it's part of the Firth of Forth SSSI/SPA and a Ramsar designated site.

    The latter designation is derived from the Ramsar Convention, an international treaty for the conservation and sustainable use of "Wetlands of International Importance especially as Waterfowl Habitat". Not bad for a suburb of Edinburgh.

    (Edinburgh also has the smallest SPA in Scotland: Imperial Dock Lock in Leith. It only covers around 1,000 square metres, but it is home to one of the UK’s biggest common tern colonies.)

    Posted 6 years ago #
  19. chdot
    Admin

    "Eddie Tait, who opened the Boardwalk Beach Club cafe in Marine Drive, Silverknowes, in 2016 – its name inspired by Sir Terry’s proposal – wants to create a botanical garden on the foreshore and bring back playing fields on Gyspy Brae.

    "

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/business/boardwalk-vision-revived-for-edinburgh-waterfront-1-4655848

    Posted 6 years ago #
  20. chdot
    Admin

  21. chdot
    Admin

    He has put forward the idea as part of a drive to revive efforts to create a continuous high-quality promenade to help link the shoreline communities of Cramond, Silverknowes, Granton and Leith.

    https://www.scotsman.com/lifestyle/calls-for-angel-of-the-forth-to-be-built-near-forth-bridges-1-4766343

    Posted 6 years ago #
  22. chdot
    Admin

    ART WALK PORTY 2018

    The Art Walk returns to Portobello this year from 30 August to 9 September. Our programme will centre on the 'Pleasure Ground' looking at Portobello's seaside entertainment history, of music halls, bandstands and other lost spaces of this period.

    https://www.artwalkporty.co.uk

    Posted 6 years ago #
  23. chdot
    Admin

  24. Snowy
    Member

    ...a former head of Visit Britain had been to the cafe and admired the views. “She couldn’t believe she had never seen a postcard of the area. In any other country this would be a hugely recognised thoroughfare.”

    Indeed.

    But where will people PARK?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  25. gembo
    Member

    Crammond has historically been a weekend holiday destination (miss Jean Brodie etc). The walk by the river down to the path to the island is well promenaded. But was the prom along to granton ever a place of Victorian promenading?

    I was down at Granton campus the other day and the plans to create 4000 houses there continue also national gallery and museum outposts.

    There used to be a train station at Granton, did the line go along to Crammond?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  26. chdot
    Admin

    “There used to be a train station at Granton, did the line go along to Crammond?”

    Not as such.

    https://www.railscot.co.uk/Barnton_Branch/index.php

    (Via new Royal High)

    Posted 6 years ago #
  27. gembo
    Member

    So unsurprisingly five ways was the branchline junction and the line is obvious as it is the cycle path to silver knowes, ending round the back of Tesco at d mains

    As with Balerno the high school at Barnton built in railway land. Defunct Caledonian railway legacy to cycling and school kids

    Posted 6 years ago #
  28. chdot
    Admin

    “So unsurprisingly five ways was the branchline junction”

    Not as such.

    Two lines crossed here, one was on a bridge.

    This was removed and major earthworks ensued to make Five Ways. (Which is why the slope towards the tunnel is so steep.)

    The junction was where the lines from Scotland Yard and the line through Powderhall joined and continued to Granton.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  29. gembo
    Member

    What tunnel?

    My five ways is chance lot and goldenacre paths meeting the leith to d mains line (which is two of the five) and the fifth being the line north to the shore. But thinking thus thru that is east of Granton by a good bit.

    Is this the right five ways?

    The Rodney street tunnel?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  30. neddie
    Member

    I wonder why they didn't continue the Barnton branch line further out West to Cramond?

    Posted 6 years ago #

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