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51% of cargo in European cities could be delivered by bicycle

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  1. crowriver
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    @Dave, finance for motor vehicles is a huge industry. It's all about leasing these days, started with commercial fleets now pretty much the norm for civvies too instead of the loan/purchase/depreciation shuffle.

    Finance for bikes less well developed as historically a much cheaper item than motors. Needs developing for sure.

    However momentum is with financial industry behemoth that makes a nice wee earner from vehicles (loans and leasing). Read something recently that investors can't be bothered providing cash for green business startups because they're too busy making money from vehicle finance.

    Shows that once it gets to a certain size, "the market" skews how our economy and society is shaped - often mostly in its own interests and according to its own logic (see St James centre for a local example). Needs government intervention and regulation to change things to benefit society as a whole. Little sign that current neoliberal SNP administration will change things too much, nascent deal with the Greens notwithstanding. As for the Tories at UK level, they were only stopped from building a road tunnel under Stonehenge by the courts, so I wouldn't hold out too much hope there.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  2. LaidBack
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    @Dave @crowriver et al

    All good points. When we sold our first Bakfiets in 2013 people were just looking for a manual local journey one (electric was retrofit then). No-one thought of a cargobike really carrying gallons of soup etc back then and models sold without finance at around £2k or less. Was maybe in same slot as a tandem or Yuba longtail.

    UA then came in around then too with a choice between 'e' and 'non e' offerings. Prices climbed steeply from around £4k to close on £6k now and without EST Interest Free Finance we would not sell as many. (ScotGreen initiative I think?)
    In comparison with EVs though our sales are tiny. Other shops doing their best too I'm sure - eg Tern GSD been big seller from Harts and Bike Coop. Harts also has the new Gazelle Maki bakfiets - not seen one yet but it's good news if it helps increase the market and normality of family cargo at least.

    Some families still go for manual ones though. Routes near Meadows are improving with new crossing to Grange (thank you campaigners!).

    Azor Bakfiets 8 speed Nexus

    Posted 2 years ago #
  3. chdot
    Admin

    “thank you campaigners!”

    Well yes

    At least one on here I think.

    Was initially about walking (to Sciennes) more than cycling (I think?)

    10 years?

    Posted 2 years ago #
  4. LaidBack
    Member

    DHL have pulled their cargobike trial in Edinburgh. Model supplied by EAV in England. No idea what that means - is that it's commitment over, or will it redeploy in another city?
    Success rating for a large company will partly hinge upon social media buzz too.
    FedEx trikes still going as far as I know. Think they maybe have 2. Compare and contrast with vast numbers of vans and we can see that things aren't loaded towards pedal power. (Saw all electric DHL van in Glasgow at weekend.)

    https://twitter.com/WHitchhike/status/1488443603445817352?t=QgxhwcZRH1S2zvqtSofz7g&s=19

    Posted 2 years ago #
  5. LaidBack
    Member

    Can't find the other cargobike threads.

    Anyway this is either good news or a cover for business as usual!
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/carltonreid/2023/09/28/toyota-france-to-sell-e-cargobikes-in-170-dealerships-from-october/?sh=18ad71fa72a7

    Douze isn't a brand I know. Not all bakfiets are easy to ride. France though starts with a slight liking for les velos.

    Posted 7 months ago #

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