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New Tarmac

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  • Started 4 years ago by gembo
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  1. gembo
    Member

    Gillespie x roads open for business with nice new Tarmac on the junction and for several yards to the east

    Posted 7 months ago #
  2. fimm
    Member

    While any new tarmac is welcome, I don't think that was the part of the Lanark Road that I would have put it on if I had been in charge...

    Posted 7 months ago #
  3. Frenchy
    Member

    Minor win in the TEC committee just now:

    All signed cycling routes and all roads with cycling lanes now have a 1.05 weighting applied in the calculation for resurfacing roads.

    Active travel organisations (presumably Spokes and Living Streets) will also be actively consulted on the annual resurfacing program, so that they can suggest improvements to road layouts whilst they're happening.

    Posted 7 months ago #
  4. chdot
    Admin

    “so that they can suggest improvements to road layouts whilst they're happening“

    Kinda sounds like a bit late.

    And of course puts the responsibility onto ‘amateur volunteers’.

    Posted 7 months ago #
  5. chdot
    Admin

    Basically CEC should be training its roads staff better and also increasing the number of cycle infrastructure technicians.

    Current ‘story’ is that they can’t get the staff because they don’t pay enough.

    That’s compared with various consultant firms - some get well paid by CEC to do work that SHOULD be done in-house.

    Posted 7 months ago #
  6. Frenchy
    Member

    Kinda sounds like a bit late.

    Sorry - suggestions would be made well before any actual work is carried out.

    This has already been happening informally for a while. The difference now is that the council will actually ask for input, rather than Spokes just giving it. I hope that this makes the council more likely to take heed (although my understanding is that they've generally done so anyway), which might also lead to Spokes making more radical suggestions in the future.

    Posted 7 months ago #
  7. Frenchy
    Member

    Basically CEC should be training its roads staff better and also increasing the number of cycle infrastructure technicians.

    Completely agree, of course. But I don't like to see opportunities for even small improvements be missed, and the suggestions from amateur volunteers can be useful for this.

    Posted 7 months ago #
  8. wingpig
    Member

    Henderson St, between Sandport and Parliament St, which makes the right turn off the bridge a bit easier.

    Posted 7 months ago #
  9. chdot
    Admin

    Posted 7 months ago #
  10. wingpig
    Member

    It was very narrow there yesterday morning. One wrong move by one of the mechanical shovels either side would not end well.

    Posted 7 months ago #
  11. chdot
    Admin

    Roadworks are taking place along Nicolson Street and council officers said they “expect them to be completed by Saturday”. If there is not enough space to accommodate protesters through the roadworks, organisers will be forced to change the route.

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/our-region/edinburgh/donald-trump-protest-march-banned-from-princes-street-over-safety-concerns-1-4768223

    Posted 6 months ago #
  12. chdot
    Admin

    Only just caught up with this -

    Posted 3 months ago #
  13. jonty
    Member

    I notice the stop line coming southbound there does not extend across the cycle lane. Deliberate?

    Posted 3 months ago #
  14. chdot
    Admin

    Posted 1 month ago #
  15. chdot
    Admin

    The condition of roads in the Capital have been labelled an “utter disgrace” after it was revealed that less than one quarter of repairs scheduled to be carried out this year have been completed.

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/transport/council-fails-to-carry-out-two-thirds-of-edinburgh-roadworks-1-4834792/amp

    Posted 1 month ago #
  16. gembo
    Member

    Fails to carry out two thirds of repairs bad
    Less than a quarter completed
    A twelfth or more started but not completed?

    Just trying yo make sense of the fractions quoted.

    Have spotted
    Roadworks everywhere recently

    And yet nothing about the sheer number of single occupant vehicles bring driven into Edibburgh from Edinburgh itself and the surrounding local authorities causing irreparable damage to road infrastructure. But the quotes from Tories so really should just spend more council tax on this ?

    Or why jobs can be scheduled with the knowledge they Won't get done given the existing backlog. Quote from the coalition councillor dodging the fractions.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  17. Trixie
    Member

    It would help if the repairs were up to scratch when they do get them done. I posted that Greendykes Road had been resurfaced 9 months ago; it's already sinking in a few places and will be back to a cratered mess by end of winter.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  18. PS
    Member

    Or left alone - SGN are already digging big trenches along the stretch of Rodney Street that was re-laid to extensive inconvenience and sleep loss for local residents in July/August/September.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  19. gembo
    Member

    also West Lothian - the stretch of Lang Whang from West Calder turn (B7008) to Tarbrax closed for fourth time this year despite the ashphalt having been totally replaced, it is now getting scraped in patches.

    The few residents ignore this, the diversions are big if cycling and the workies do not let you through

    They always when they dig a hole in Germany all uitilities fixed at once?

    Colleague who used to live in Sweden says -30 degrees but NO potholes in 18 months and no cancelled train. Ever

    Posted 1 month ago #
  20. Klaxon
    Member

    They must have been living in a different Sweden if SJ never cancelled a train

    Posted 1 month ago #
  21. gembo
    Member

    @klaxon, or have bad memory? Or had run of luck? Was Gothenburg I think? Chap stays in Livingston and comes in by train. Has been a bad year so far for cancellations. Rail replacements, engineering works, weather closing stations etc.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  22. edinburgh87
    Member

    @gembo - I seem to remember getting through last time they were resurfacing. Hd to dismount and walk past the work site itself but otherwise no-one batted an eyelid. Fingers crossed you were just unlucky. Idk how they can stop you if you're technically a dismounted pedestrian

    Posted 1 month ago #
  23. gembo
    Member

    @edinburgh87 I would say nine times out of ten you get through. Twice I have been prevented, once south east of Carnwath and once near Woolfords T junction where the model plane club is. Both times the gaffer was nearby and the workies were under strict orders.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  24. Blueth
    Member

    Technically, as you put it, you are not a dismounted pedestrian but "in charge of a carriage".

    Posted 1 month ago #
  25. edinburgh87
    Member

    Indeed, hope for pragmatism all round but think I'll revise Saturdays planned loop :)

    Posted 1 month ago #
  26. chdot
    Admin

    Am I surprised?, shocked??

    This shows how awful and useless the red chips are.

    It also shows how much CEC cares about safety - can’t even make sure the white lines are put in place straight after the tarmac has been laid.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  27. Snowy
    Member

    Agreed, the red chips are utterly useless here. Barely visible in good daylight, but completely invisible in the dark or wet. There has to be a better way.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  28. EdinburghCycleCam
    Member

    I passed that way the other day - is that it? I assumed they hadn't finished and were yet to add the bike lane markings?

    Posted 1 month ago #
  29. Frenchy
    Member

    Is that Bruntsfield Place? Is a bike lane there actually desirable? The previous one was right in the door zone, wasn't it?

    I've heard before that the red chips only show up once they've been driven over for a while. Never checked this, though.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  30. jonty
    Member

    Oh I just saw the red chip now. It is more useful when bordered by white paint, which is presumably coming. Looks like they've left a bit of door buffer?

    Posted 1 month ago #

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