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Anti-pavement parking kerbs

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  1. SRD
    Moderator

    This was just posted on twitter http://twitter.com/DaveHenniker/status/444798217117372416

    Apparently Russell road . Kerb designed so that cars can't roll up over it anD double park.

    Anyone know anything more?

    Posted 10 years ago #
  2. kaputnik
    Moderator

    I've assumed they're meant to stop people parking on inside of blind corners (double yellows don't work of course) and getting clobbered by vehicles turning the corner. But that doesn't make sense, as they park on the road instead!

    I'd much rather see something done about closing the rat run altogether.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  3. chdot
    Admin

    "I'd much rather see something done about closing the rat run altogether."

    + 1

    That was one of the bonuses of the tramworks - shutting RRd (though the ped/cycle route maintenance was less than perfect.

    Somehow the 'traffic' managed - even on Hearts' match days.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  4. SRD
    Moderator

    Mmmm...but are these being used in other places too? Does anyone know if they work? Etc

    Where are our kerb experts?

    Posted 10 years ago #
  5. chdot
    Admin

    "Where are our kerb experts?"

    'We' had to drop them, they weren't getting used enough.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  6. gembo
    Member

    I am no kerb expert but they will deter pavement parking. On ludicrous parking, in sighthill industrial estate there is an incredible corner, where despite it being clearly ludicrous to park on it, it happens all the time. You are really forced out as a vehicle using the road. Once round you can't cut back in for a while but when you do you are getting near the very old stationary roll on sausage van that is on the hill but propped up by many teetering breeze blocks at the lower end to try to effect a level roll on sausage emporium. It is very skelly. However, for some reason I find it very jolly and cheers me up after the corner parking cats

    Posted 10 years ago #
  7. Klaxon
    Member

    Russell Rd isn't a rat run, it's the only n/s route between Haymarket and Murrayfield

    Posted 10 years ago #
  8. slowcoach
    Member

    trief kerbs (or titan from Marshals)- not just to keep cars off, blocks lorries, coaches, etc, as long as they don't start from before the transition. More often used in lorry car parks or to prevent over-running at gatehouses/toll barriers?

    Posted 10 years ago #
  9. earthowned
    Member

    I hope they are used sparingly and situated according to need. Good luck getting a wheelchair or buggy up and over one of those.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  10. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Russell Rd isn't a rat run, it's the only n/s route between Haymarket and Murrayfield

    The rat-running aspect is at the Roseburn end, where instead of turning right out of it onto Roseburn Street, then wait at the lights for a left onto Roseburn Terrace (A8), vehicles turn left onto R. Street, right into R. Place and then R. again into R. Gardens to make a left onto the A8, cunningly avoiding the lights and a pedestrian crossing and filling residential streets full of impatient traffic while kids try and cross to get to primary school.

    I actually abandoned going this way for this reason.

    Then at the other end, there are 3 potential ways to enter (Murieston Road, Murieston Crescent, Mcleod Street) combining down to 1 road. Trying to get out of Murieston Crescent of an evening is not a pleasant experience. The road is too narrow and parking on each side and communal bins right at the end means it is pretty much abandoned to those willing to queue here.

    The council, Royal Mail and Scotrail depot and a builders yard and parking on both sides of the road, and the piers of the viaduct narrowing the road just beyond Mcleod Street, it really is not a friendly place to cycle.

    I hope they are used sparingly and situated according to need. Good luck getting a wheelchair or buggy up and over one of those.

    Agree, this sort of hard engineering approach really should be a last resort in places with low expectation of footfall. Surely a row of bollards would be more practical? (and cheaper too, not requiring pavements to be relaid.)

    Posted 10 years ago #
  11. cb
    Member

    It's right under the new tram line so there could be some complicated technical reason?

    Posted 10 years ago #
  12. neddie
    Member

    I don't see why they need to protect against pavement parking there. The road is wide enough that you can park for free on the street on both sides (& people do).

    Plenty of room for a segregated cycle route as well, but that's well down on CEC's priority list

    Posted 10 years ago #
  13. robyvecchio
    Member

    As far as I know, they are safety kerbs, designed to prevent accidental mounting of the pavement in case of accidents. I never heard of them preventing parking.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  14. DaveC
    Member

    They will be to stop vans packed with explosives parking under the bridge, anti terrorism obviously. Its the catch all response to these sorts of questions. In the same way nurseries blame 'elf n safely' when they can't be bothered explaining the real reason.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  15. fimm
    Member

    I went looking for those when I went through Russell Road last week, and couldn't spot them. Not under any of the bridges, as far as I could see...

    Posted 10 years ago #
  16. cb
    Member

    Heading north it is after the tram bridge, round the corner, right under the tram line. Usually well obscured by parked cars, vans etc.

    I reckon it is just to protect the tram line from an accidental knock from a coach or lorry.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  17. fimm
    Member

    I have finally spotted these (it was annoying me).
    As cb says, they're not under the bridge but are next to the new wall with the tram line on top, so I reckon (s)he's right about their purpose too.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  18. gembo
    Member

    Also helps people with guide dogs I understand

    Posted 10 years ago #

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