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"Lorry crash at Cameron Toll bridge causes chaos"

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  1. chdot
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  2. SRD
    Moderator

    'Load of oatcakes'

    So presumably nairns of peffermill? You'd think they'd know the route...

    Posted 10 years ago #
  3. DaveC
    Member

    So presumably nairns of peffermill? You'd think they'd know the route...

    Could be an agency driver, filling in for a regular driver on holiday?

    Posted 10 years ago #
  4. gembo
    Member

    Crumbs DM, hope no one hurt.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  5. cycletrain
    Member

    Hmm, could be a Professional driver who doesn't see signs and doesn't know the size of vehicle they are being paid to drive.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  6. DaveC
    Member

    'professional'?? Don't make me laugh. ooctors and lawyers are professionals. Taxi and larry drivers aren't even technicians!

    These days everyone is either and 'engineer' or a 'professional'.

    You are right though, if the eejit looked at the signs and where he was going... Probably just following his gps!

    I recall trying to deliver to Daventry and having to circle it trying to find a road in which had a bridge higher than 15ft.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  7. wingpig
    Member

    DaveC, if someone drives a vehicle as a job, driving a vehicle is their profession, therefore they are a professional driver, irrespective of the standard to which they perform their duties.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  8. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Every lorry has to have the height of the vehicle on prominent display on the dashboard. That's largely for agency drivers.

    This guy/gal really has taken the biscuit.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  9. chdot
    Admin

  10. steveo
    Member

    This guy at least tried to make it fit. Pity its a lorry and not a bike, his innovative approach to driving would have worked with less wheels.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  11. DaveC
    Member

    Hmm wonder if the cooncil are thinking of lowering the road surface there?

    Posted 10 years ago #
  12. kaputnik
    Moderator

    There's a tunnel in Australialand (Sydney, I think) which is constantly getting high HGVs crash into it, despite multiple large and obvious signs and flashing lights triggered by height detectors.

    The rather awesome solution is a projection system that displays on a water curtain. If a high-sided vehicle is detected approaching the tunnel portal, the curtain is deployed by spraying a fine mist of water across the mouth of tunnel and the projectors display an enormous "STOP!" sign across the path of travel.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  13. Min
    Member

    Blimey, were they trying to slide under it sideways? I think that only works in Hollywood.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  14. neddie
    Member

    If you look closely at the lower smaller image in the article, it looks like it has been taken from the driver's seat of a car on the roundabout!

    Surely illegal / dangerous.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  15. Min
    Member

    Nah, they'll have had their phone in their hand anyway..

    Posted 10 years ago #
  16. Min
    Member

    Actually, it does look to me as if it is being taken from the back seat as the writing on the road is upside down, suggesting the vehicle is moving away.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  17. RJ
    Member

    I know that junction well. The two pictures are taken from almost the same place. The first one is clearly from from a seat next to the emergency exit of a bus going the "correct" way round. It's impossible to be sure of the direction of travel of the vehicle the second picture was taken from. If going the "correct" way round the junction, then that view is only possible from the driver's side - but it's *conceivable* that the picture could have been taken from the passenger side of a vehicle directed the "wrong" way round the junction from Dalkeith Road or Peffermill Road up Old Dalkeith Road.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  18. twq
    Member

    However this photo definitely was taken by someone driving.
    https://twitter.com/chase_jon/status/479195572201873409/photo/1

    Posted 10 years ago #
  19. Min
    Member

    If going the "correct" way round the junction, then that view is only possible from the driver's side

    Yes, I think you are right.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  20. neddie
    Member

    The one on Twitter taken by @chase_jon while driving has been added to the EEN article!

    Posted 10 years ago #
  21. Snowy
    Member

    The one by @chase_jon appears to be a company vehicle judging from the no smoking sticker & paperwork on the dash. Short bonnet so probably a van. Wonder if his employer sanctions him snapping photos while he's driving?

    Posted 10 years ago #
  22. neddie
    Member

    I saw a photo taken by a lorry driver on the Book of Faces of the paper rolls mess on the bypass the other day. He was driving in the opposite direction.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  23. Cyclingmollie
    Member

    Thye Daily Mirror helpfully categorises all its bad driving stories to create this litany of horror:

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/all-about/dangerous%20driving

    Posted 10 years ago #
  24. RJ
    Member

    All clear now, apparently:

    https://twitter.com/edintravel/status/479268644028174336

    Posted 10 years ago #
  25. chdot
    Admin

  26. amir
    Member

    I was affected by that. It was causing great confusion. Fortunately bikes have more alternative routes available than cars.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  27. chdot
    Admin

  28. urchaidh
    Member

    if someone drives a vehicle as a job, driving a vehicle is their profession, therefore they are a professional driver, irrespective of the standard to which they perform their duties

    They are only a professional if the job they do is a profession. Not all jobs are professions, I'll admit the definition is a bit woolly but I'm fairly sure wagon driving isn't in the grey area.

    Apologies for the delayed action pedantry.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  29. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @urchaidh

    To drive a large goods vehicle you need to pass extensive written and practical state tests and regular health checks once over the age of fifty.

    No such legal framework exists for the majority of those who work in, say, banks.

    Luckily most of my work errors are less visible than a lorry stuck under a city centre bridge.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  30. cb
    Member

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_professions

    Not sure if a Wikipedia article is much of a definitive list but only Air Traffic Controllers, Pilots and Sea Captains make it into the Transport section. Wot, no taxi drivers?

    Posted 10 years ago #

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