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Meanwhile in Aberdeen

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  1. chdot
    Admin

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    STV News (@STVNews)
    24/04/2014 11:08
    Plans to improve notorious Aberdeen traffic bottleneck revealed

    http://bit.ly/1hr5idc

    http://pic.twitter.com/CnGp3ImpD3

    Posted 10 years ago #
  2. Min
    Member

    Aberdeen is a lost cause. It is Carmageddon.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  3. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Middlefield is emphatically not a middle class area. It stands between the oilies and the West End, so it must be flattened.

    Aberdeen, much as I love it, is a democratic basket case. Nigeria in microcosm.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  4. cb
    Member

    That's 1960s style planning is it not? I mean it's not going to make anything better us it, building a massive new road and introducing two major new intersections?

    I suppose it will reduce rat running on the local streets, but only because the local streets won't actually exist any more.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  5. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Aberdeen has only narrowly avoided filling in and concreting over its equivalent of Princes Street Gardens.

    It is a rich city, but it is not a sophisticated city. The simian council makes our lot look like visionaries. It is the epicentre of 'FirstBus for the poor and 4x4s for the rich' thinking.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  6. kaputnik
    Moderator

    I saw Dundee's "visionary" new masterplan for their waterfront in the news.

    They'd managed to run 5 lanes of motor traffic right through the middle of it.

    Inspirational.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  7. Dave
    Member

    We went up to Aberdeen visiting about a year ago. It was very noticeable that the cars got massively more expensive, and the driving massively more dangerous, the closer we got. (Sadly our car isn't flash enough, and my driving isn't aggressive enough, to fit in)

    Posted 10 years ago #
  8. Tulyar
    Member

    Just when all the leading edge cities are ripping out these dinosaur roads Glasgow and Aberdeen continue to worship at the temple of the tarmac.

    If anything should have been blown up at the opening of Glasgow 2014 the M8 through the centre of Glasgow would have got my vote

    Posted 10 years ago #
  9. Instography
    Member

    And in a typical display of missing the point, Mr Brown said: “The bottleneck at Haudagain has caused congestion for motorists using the A90 for many years." Yep, the congestion has nothing to do with the cars. They're the victims.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  10. minus six
    Member

    A Melody From a Past Life Keeps Pulling Me Back

    Posted 10 years ago #
  11. sallyhinch
    Member

    What Tulyar said.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  12. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    What bax posted.

    The Toy Bazaar....no, sun's the wrong side. But Netherkirkgate somewhere...

    Posted 10 years ago #
  13. crowriver
    Member

    The problem in Dundee is the Tay bridge enters the city right where all the new development is going in. The A92 passes right through the centre, and the A85 heads west to Perth. They could really do with getting rid of the A991 mini-ring road from the centre mind you.

    Sadly folk in the area are still stuck in a mindset which has progressively seen more and more car centric development since the 1960s.

    Edinburgh really is the exception to the rule in Scotland I'm afraid.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  14. Snowy
    Member

    +1 Tulyar.

    The city of my student days may be be wealthier, but its relationship with roads has only got worse. It's like a fat man who knows he's got a food problem, but thinks a bigger fork is the answer.

    Apart from the madness of happily demolishing over 100 homes, and leaving many more in a pollution death zone surrounded by dual carriageway, what struck me was the sheer ignorance of the solution from a road planning viewpoint.

    "Look, this roundabout's a problem." "Easy - just draw a new road between two bits where the queues currently begin!" "Genius - people will be so busy navigating all the new junctions that they won't realise they're spending even longer on the journey than they did before!"

    Posted 10 years ago #
  15. minus six
    Member

    @iwrats

    St Paul Street

    Its changed a bit

    Posted 10 years ago #
  16. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @bax

    It surely has. Thanks for the memory. Very odd to feel five years old sat at my grown-up desk.

    I see the Blue Lamp's gone West as well. Still, I'm a fan of Brew Dog and you can't stand in the way of progress.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  17. AKen
    Member

    In defence of Dundee, many central streets have had traffic banished from them entirely and traffic volumes in most of the rest of the centre are now very low as all through traffic is routed in other directions.

    The front used to be a wasteland of concrete, snaking overhead walkways, slip roads and speeding traffic. If the new plan (which looks a million times better than what it replaced) has about 5 lanes of traffic then that's about 5 less than it used to have.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  18. Min
    Member

    Keith Brown is meeting with councillors over this. I don't really understand why they apparently want it to happen instantly whilst simultaneously spitting the dummy over not being consulted over the plans and having "concerns" about the impact on residents. Maybe there aren't enough lanes and the speed limit is too low or something.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-27286606

    Posted 10 years ago #
  19. chdot
    Admin

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    However, Aberdeen Council officers were not present at the public exhibition of plans over claims they were excluded from the decision-making process.

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    Would he try that in Edinburgh??

    Posted 10 years ago #
  20. chdot
    Admin

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    The third Don crossing in Aberdeen is to open next week, following months of delays.

    The £22m road bridge linking Danestone and Tillydrone is aimed at easing congestion in the north of the city.

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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-36411874

    Posted 8 years ago #
  21. LaidBack
    Member

    Yes. All happening there. Driving is popular with long penned off detours to get across roads.
    Saw a bike lane near Maritime Museum. Several Abellio bikes were in station on display.
    My customer doesn't mind cycling in city when he has to. Most of the time he commutes to Inverurie around 15miles

    I saw a coffee place called The Shining.
    'A yawn is just a silent scream for coffee'. Didn't go in.

    Roll on faster train connections though

    Posted 8 years ago #
  22. HankChief
    Member

    https://twitter.com/AberdeenCC/status/1085932226318077952?s=19

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    Cyclists, take extra time to plan your journey, listen to police advice, cycle to conditions, wear hi-vis and warm clothes, have winter tyres, and have a Plan B (bus, car, walk, or work from home).
    Also follow @PolScotRoadsNE and @NorthEPolice for updates
    "

    To be fair, they did put out similar tweets to pedestrians & drivers.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  23. HankChief
    Member


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