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That's easy. Blocking the roundabout.
Recently there has been SO much parking in the Leith Street and South Bridge bus lanes during their supposed operational hours. It has always been bad but it really seems to have gotten worse in the last few weeks. I suppose it at least stops them driving along in them..
I assume the Leith Street parking is at the point where the paint has gone and the council can't enforce as a result? You'd think the No Stopping signs at all entrances would be enough, but...
Similar problem on South Bridge I think - although a lot of the loading that goes on in the bus lanes is actually perfectly legal according to the lines and signs.
The bridges corridor will be a hard fight for segregated infrastructure when it comes, but when it does it'll be so pleasant.
How funny. I have been thinking recently that the parking at Livi North was particularly mental and wondering if I was noticing it more because I seem to have been getting there 15 minutes later than usual.
In the upper car park parking on the pavements has always been the norm apart from where there are bollards to stop you. They have put double yellow lines on the main road so I assume that there was a problem with parking there as well.
Yes, there's a nice new double tier bike rack at the lower car park, like the new one at Haymarket (useless looking locking points, mind). It gets 3 or 4 bikes, max. There's another much older rack at the upper car park (also covered Sheffield stands, but only 4 or 5 of them I think - not that it is ever remotely full).
If I wanted to encourage bike use I would commission a really good map of all the traffic-free routes to the station - this is Livingston, there are traffic-free paths - and then I would get the council to make sure that they are all kept clear of leaves and ice (guess why I've just started cycling on the roads again....)
although a lot of the loading that goes on in the bus lanes is actually perfectly legal according to the lines and signs.
It is?? That's just green inkingly bonkeroonie. What is the point?
See the section about kerb markings here: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway-code/road-markings
Loading restrictions for double yellow lines with single pips can be see on the signs. It usually just forbids on-peak loading.
For example: https://goo.gl/maps/oyEisVfnm2P2
It usually just forbids on-peak loading.
Oh I see, yes I knew that. It is all the "loading" that happens on peak that bothers me. I thought for a moment you meant there was some sort of bylaw that made it okay! I probably just need my lunch.
Can anyone clarify that I have this right?
Double yellow lines, no kerb pips --> no parking but loading is allowed.
Double yellow lines, single pips --> no parking, but loading allowed during certain times.
Double yellow lines, double pips --> no parking AND no loading.
@Frenchy - that's it. Loading also needs to be continuous and bulky/heavy items, so no sneaky parking for "just a minute"...
Robert
Ta, Robert.
@Roibeard: I'm sure I've asked this before (and you've probably told me before) but is there a legislative definition of loading which sets that out?
Previous discussion, particularly HankChief's link and Arellcat's post, might partially answer that:
...and I'm the second poster on that thread! I am hopeless. I've bookmarked that thread for future reference.
I spent an afternoon in the law library (joys of working for a Uni!) researching case law upon which the continuous and heavy/bulky bit was emphasised.
As with much of UK law, I don't think it is stipulated anywhere, but there were cases where a judge ruled that it wasn't loading where these conditions weren't met, notably the continuous requirement.
Unfortunately I didn't retain the references as, once I found out I was conclusively wrong, I just paid the penalty charge as I wasn't loading after all!
Robert
I am the antidote!
...is about to get harder on Seafield Road. The council appear to be installing pavement bollards along the front of the tenement on the corner with Seafield street, which is normally parked up with cars half on the pavement.
Very annoying that the council have spend countless thousands installing ugly deterrents rather than being able to enforce some basic, common sense parking regulations.
Tomorrow's rubbish parking will now be on the already atrocious Seafield street.
Is there no still a suitable "disabled" parking space round there to plonk the coffee van in? ;)
Is this legal?
The parking, or using a phone in a car?
Sorry, couldn't resist.
The parking, I believe no.
"The red lines apply to the carriageway, pavement and verge. The times that the red line prohibitions apply are shown on nearby signs, but the double red line ALWAYS means no stopping at any time."
I knew someone would say that re: phone in car ... :)
Yes, I'm noting a lot more incidences of people parking on zig-zags.
I live not far from where you took that photo, edd1e_h, and I'm convinced that there are more cars parked on the Gorgie Road than there were when I moved in over a decade ago.
One for tram latest and bad parking. Double points for that!
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Gent parked on Bristo Place outside the advisory cycle lane to drop off a passenger, who opened the door into said lane as I approached. No harm done, but weird.
It is now 'common knowledge' that there are no traffic police and that 'normal police' by and large don't care about traffic matters so long as you're not consuming a bottle of vodka in the front seat.
Reported to 101 for obstruction
Becoming a very common occurrence here
By the time an officer attends I'm sure it'll be 8pm and the offending vehicles removed back to their home in the suburbs
@Klaxon
You need one of those "University*" stickers that can be stuck over the windscreen with lots of really sticky adhesive.
* Warning of illegal / inconsiderate parking
This morning, outside Sainsburys on Marchmont Road, car stopped in cycle lane outside of three empty parking spaces but presumably he didn't want to risk parking in a permit zone. Driver helping infirm person out of the car. Laws/rules on parking are an ass if this is the result.
As I manoeuvred round him I asked if the space was not big enough for him to park in, but didn't catch his witty reply to my exasperated snark.
In the absence of such stickers leaving windscreen wipers in the up position at least lets the drivers know someone thinks they park like fools. Of course that's assuming they can remember enough about the highway code to know they are in the first place.
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