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George Street Improvements

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  1. DaveC
    Member

    Looks like they are finally going to finish off that junction. Its well over due.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  2. PS
    Member

    That bit at St Andrew Square really should have the cycle lane protected by the parking bays.

    And, TBH, should really be heavily traffic calmed. It's barely used by cars, such a waste of space.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  3. Colonies_Chris
    Member

    I took a little diversion along George St tonight for a look. There are black and white low barriers on the north (cycle lane) side of some of the centre parking spaces at the Charlotte Sq end. Are they new or have I just not noticed them before? Could be they're to stop cars from exiting from the parking spot into the cycle lane. A good idea if so.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  4. Coxy
    Member

    Yep - they've changed the bays to a more diagonal angle and put rubber 'bumpers' at the bike-lane end of each one. Only a few inches high though!

    Posted 10 years ago #
  5. chdot
    Admin

    Any more reports from the front line?

    Posted 10 years ago #
  6. NiallA
    Member

    Have just cycled along there - no change from Coxy's report 2 days ago...

    Posted 10 years ago #
  7. chdot
    Admin

    Wot no tumbleweed?

    Posted 10 years ago #
  8. chdot
    Admin

    Not much happening

    Posted 10 years ago #
  9. Arellcat
    Moderator

    Not much happening, except that the cycle lane is now two blocks long!


    Thoroughfare no.2

    I wonder where all of the displaced car parking has gone meantime?

    Posted 10 years ago #
  10. Stickman
    Member

    "I wonder where all of the displaced car parking has gone meantime?"

    Haven't you heard? The EEN commenters were right and the world has come to and end due to parking spaces being removed.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  11. MeepMeep
    Member

    "I wonder where all of the displaced car parking has gone meantime?"

    That's a very pertinent question. Which I suppose should be followed by:

    "And if drivers are coping with these temporary restrictions, why re-instate a solution that contains parking on George Street?"

    Answer probably involves parallels with the displacement of parking when the CPZs were being broadened, a lot of NIMBY and a pinch of school holiday.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  12. chdot
    Admin

    "

    Buttons & Robin (@ButtonsAndRobin)
    03/07/2014 18:26
    Well this is exciting. @CyclingEdin

    http://pic.twitter.com/UOeFa38p87

    "

    Posted 10 years ago #
  13. Instography
    Member

    I saw some planters and flowers today. And more of those bumper things.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  14. wingpig
    Member

    Rats are going to love that decking.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  15. fimm
    Member

    Yes, went that way yesterday evening. You have to get off and walk round the barriers (no great hardship if it is evening & you're only going to the pub). Lots of bump things to keep the cars at bay, quite a few planters, and that decking which means that the cycle bit is narrowed right down to the painted space. At least the decking will demarkate the pedestrian and cycle spaces more obviously than paint alone.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  16. gembo
    Member

    The brown rat from kingsnowe has planned a holiday under that decking for the festival. Think it booked the las available bed as all the black rats from thistle street, the ones that moved to my cellar when Lyon and turn bulls became fishers have also decided to get out of the rest run of the thistle street eateries and moved to George street,

    You are never more than a foot away from a rat on the George street decking.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  17. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    Castle St & Frederick St junctions look as big a disaster as most thought beforehand.

    At Charlotte Sq, there's a forest of planters so westbound bikes can't merge back into the left-turn traffic at the lights. Onto the traffic island looks like being the only option - I sense 'Cyclists dismount' appearing here soon.

    CEC may well manage to make George St less cycleable after this, which would be remarkably incompetent, even for them.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  18. kaputnik
    Moderator

    CEC may well manage to make George St less cycleable after this, which would be remarkably incompetent, even for them.

    We could have a test cycle-in one morning and go to Wellingtons for coffee instead of Peter's Yard.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  19. wingpig
    Member

    Despite Stepdoh's erstwhile protestations, Wellington's coffee's not up to much.

    Still haven't been along New George Street since the first day of modification-work.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  20. sallyhinch
    Member

    Hopefully, if it's a pilot, there will be something like this going on in the background (she says hopefully)

    http://usa.streetsblog.org/2014/07/03/what-a-great-pilot-bike-lane-project-looks-like-3-best-practices/

    Posted 10 years ago #
  21. Baldcyclist
    Member

    Seem to have missed all of this, actually looks OK, must take a detour down there to try.

    Where does it go (after George St)?

    Posted 10 years ago #
  22. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    This whole thing sounds bonkers. I guess I'll just need to suck it and see. I'll pick up the Kingsknowe Court Rat on the way home tonight - it will be huge and glossy by the time it's hoovered up a whole festival's worth of sub-decking morcels.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  23. chdot
    Admin

    "Where does it go (after George St)?"

    http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12044

    Posted 10 years ago #
  24. chdot
    Admin

    Well it's sort of open -

    But there are issues -

    Posted 10 years ago #
  25. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Well that's a very CEC way to end what is a very expensive piece of path...

    * I'd like to assume that's not final, but T.I.E.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  26. acsimpson
    Member

    I can't help but laugh at it surely they are waiting for something to be delivered. Perhaps it's going to be a chicane barrier with a large cyclists dismount sign on it.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  27. Couple of 'End of Route' signs along with the 'Cyclists Dismount' ones and the job's a good'un!

    Posted 10 years ago #
  28. neddie
    Member

    The wooden fencing round the decking looks guy close to the edge of the cycle track!

    I can see cyclists crossing to the other side of the track to give it enough margin.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  29. Arellcat
    Moderator

    Has CEC released (or even produced?!) the schematics for the junctions on this cycle route experiment? I'm keen to learn how the Charlotte Square bit is going to operate and whether it is going to require right-angled turns, straight after that lovely sweeping bend for westbound cyclists. I want to stay positive but I'm also really not sure how it can avoid lots of potential conflict with pedestrians.

    If I'm given a choice between performing right-angled turns on cycle infrastructure, and mixing it up with taxi and car drivers, quite often I'll take the drivers.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  30. chdot
    Admin

    "I have a great dislike of performing right-angled turns on a bike."

    Also the right turn into GSt.

    There used to be that odd button-controlled filter.

    Posted 10 years ago #

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