Again I know that this isn't atrucker forum , but I know there are some smart cookies on here, so !
When the A9 speed cameras go live, and start relieving people of cash, are we to believe the hype, and as far as I am aware, rubbish, that states that hgv, will then be permitted to travel unhindered by fines etc m, at the giddy speed of 50mph ! The road has not been modified, except at dual sections where the limit is 50, for that class of vehicle,the furniture and geographical features havnt been changed so why would the legal limit be just cast aside because the cameras will watch them !I understand that modern vehicles are"much safer and efficient at braking" but the road has been classed as an A road and as far as I know there are no other roads in the uk where the max speed limit is greater than that as set down by law ! Going under, and imposing a lower limit, I believe requires some legal acts being performed in parliament or other such place.
Does anyone , and please , no more friends of the a9 speed camera action group type people actually have legally enforceable evidence one way or another, yes I have a serious interest in this ! The faster I am permitted to go the shorter the journey time, the less I get paid !!!!! I also have no intention of driving over the top of a poor mrs watsit in a fiesta!
many "pundits" on good ole radio Scotland recently stated that hgv will be travelling at 50 so all the bottle necks will disappear ! most of the hgv cowboys are already running at 56/7/8/9 mph , or whatever they can squeeze out of them anyway !
gggggrrrrrrrrr !
Scott
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a9 speed cameras, hgv
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Posted 9 years ago #
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splitshift - yes the speed limit on single carriageway sections of the A9 for HGVs is to be increased from 40mph to 50mph. This will be done through the HGV Speed Limit (M9/A9 Trunk Road) Regulations 2014. You can find a draft version of these Regulations at:
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/sdsi/2014/9780111023433/introduction
The Regulations were recently considered by the Scottish Parliament's Infrastructure and Capital Investment Committee. You might be interested in what Keith Brown (Transport Minister) had to say on the issues you mention. You can find a transcript of the meeting at:
http://www.scottish.parliament.uk/parliamentarybusiness/28862.aspx?r=9225&mode=pdf
May also come in handy if you are finding it difficult to get to sleep.
Posted 9 years ago # -
Will there be any change in the speed limit for small commercial vehicles with a GVW over 2 tons which are currently only supposed to do 50mph on single carriageway roads? Whenever I stick to that I seem to frustrate people just as much as HGVs!
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Given the massive #fail on emissions, which increase as the speeds of vehicles increases, and notably it is bad for large and 'blunt' vehicles with the aerodynamics of a brick, then surely the Scottish Government should be maintaining that 40mph limit, and encouraging more use of the train services, where one key player is strongly advertising their commitment to LESS_CO 2 with assistance of Stobart and DRS or is it WH Malcolm?.
The wear & tear on the road, and risk management is quite possibly delivered for a lower cost by getting more of the truck-load freight moving North and South by rail, or even sea. Simply restoring a couple of the former double track sections, and extending some of the existing loops, with bi directional signalling would give a massive capacity enhancement.
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"Simply restoring a couple of the former double track sections, and extending some of the existing loops, with bi directional signalling would give a massive capacity enhancement."
Even with a government that quite likes roads, it's really surprising that this hasn't been a greater priority.
All the rail routes in and out of Inverness are mostly single track.
Though the airport may get a station before Edinburgh!!
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A new train station at Inverness Airport could be built by 2019 as the First Minister unveiled a £170 million investment in the rail line between the city and Aberdeen.
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@ morningsider et all, incredible,I honestly predict chaos on that road, my large company employer really doesn't seem to know about this, at the moment the cameras are in place, many hgv are today adhere ing to 40, . I genuinely do not believe this will reduce accidents,merely start increasing the speed that they happen.as for the train option while my company doesn't at this moment use Inverness we do use Aberdeen . But one train breaks down and no one gets any cut price cat litter , at all ! If it's just one truck, then there will be another along soon , and we all know how important value bin bags etc are !
Thanks, I knew someone on here would be able to provide some real info !
ScottPosted 9 years ago # -
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Lorry drivers claim the cameras are leading to more dangerous manoeuvres on the notoriously accident-prone road.
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http://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/a9-lorry-drivers-to-stage-rolling-roadblock-1-3453881
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The first of the controversial cameras are already in place on the A9 between Inverness and Perth and motorists have started reporting longer journey times on the route, despite the devices having not yet been turned on.
Lorry drivers claim the cameras are leading to more dangerous manoeuvres on the notoriously accident-prone road.
Truck driver Connor McKenna, from Inverness, said motorists were slamming on their brakes when they first glimpsed the speed cameras, known as “yellow vultures” due to their colour.
So, basically, most drivers (except presumably lorry drivers) are speeding as a matter of course and then have to slam on the brakes when they realise there are speed cameras...
He said drivers were ready to back the plan and added: “It is only a matter of time before there is an accident. People don’t understand the cameras.”
So, they're slamming the brakes on, then speeding up, then slamming the brakes on again? The new cameras will pay for themselves through fines in quite a short time then!
I can't quite believe people's stupidity sometimes.
Posted 9 years ago # -
The only danger posed by a motorist who brakes for a speed camera is to another motorist who is tailgating. It's hard to be sympathetic about that, or to take it as much of a real problem to be honest.
It's really hard to understand where the lorry drivers are coming from - they've landed themselves a 25% increase in the speed limit, and everywhere else in the UK that average cameras have *ever* been deployed has seen a huge fall in collisions.
We drive the A9 often and I don't have any issue with these cameras at all.
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"The only danger posed by a motorist who brakes for a speed camera is to another motorist who is tailgating. It's hard to be sympathetic about that"
Yes, but they were also talking about 'more, dangerous overtaking' or perhaps 'more dangerous overtaking'.
Didn't follow the logic.
Posted 9 years ago # -
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No fatalities period on stretch of A9 longest in 37 years
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-35408447
Posted 8 years ago #
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