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Bad experiences on the way home tonight

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  • Started 9 years ago by Greenroofer
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  1. Greenroofer
    Member

    So I had to go to Halfords at Hermiston Gait tonight to buy something for the car. I decided to take the shortcut under the ring road that has always interested me. It's a right of way. It was full of nettles. For reasons that seemed good at the time, I pressed on through the nettles in my shorts. The numerous stings didn't seem that bad at the time. I reached a dead end and retraced my steps back through the nettles. More stings. Then I found the route across the field, which was indistinct to say the least. There was a narrow path beaten through standing corn. I can see no reason why you would want to follow me on this route. I've done the hard work so you don't need to. My calves are still tingling from the stings.

    Later, as I turned onto Myreside Road there was a dreadful banging grinding smashing noise from the back wheel. For some reason my chain tensioner had leapt into the back wheel. It's destroyed the tensioner (or maybe it broke first), sheared a spoke and ripped a chunk off the plastic covers on the Alfine hub.I had to walk the bike home. It may be that the ride across the cornfield 6 miles earlier had precipitated this failure.

    The only redeeming feature of the push home was that a gentleman passed me southbound as the sole occupant of a Circe Helios so there was an interesting spot to occupy me on the push home. If it was you, I was the chap in the blue top pushing my bike south on the pavement beside you.

    Now you've finished enjoying my misfortunes (some self-inflicted) can you advise me on a good chain tensioner? My bike has vertical-ish drop-outs and an Alfine hub, so I need something to keep the chain tight. I'm in the market for a new one...

    Posted 9 years ago #
  2. gembo
    Member

    Ah Greenroofer, I have had occasional fleeting thoughts of seeking this route out but I won't now. Half way down Cultins road is a cut through on the left as you head north for pedestrians or bikes. This is the only shortcut to halfords I fear.

    Never mind come and meet me and dave c at PY tomorrow at 7.43 a.m.

    I have standard sturmey archer chain tensioner. Takes most abuse but have never dragged it twice through beds of nettles then through a corn field.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  3. Uberuce
    Member

    Light up the LaidSignal.

    His recumbent devices use all manner of chain guidey things.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  4. Its_Me_Knees
    Member

    Greenroofer, not sure if you're aware, but had you gone another 70-ish yards or so South, you would have found a nice clear passage under the bypass, where the river is channeled through. It brings you out on a rough track that bridges the railway and then becomes a metalled road that feeds on to Gogar Station Road. Used to be part of my daily commute to Riccarton campus. I think 'your' route has fallen into disuse because of the rinky-dinky riverside one being so close/easy.

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  5. Greenroofer
    Member

    @Its_Me_Knees. I knew about what we might now call 'your' route to Edinburgh Park, but I wanted to see if 'my' route was any good.

    For the avoidance of doubt, my route is no good at all. Avoid it. If you want to get from Edinburgh Park/Hermiston Gait to Gogar Station Road (or vice versa) use the Its_Me_Knees route that follows the Gogar Burn and goes over the railway. It's quite useful.

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  6. chdot
    Admin

  7. AKen
    Member

    I tried the northernmost underpass, from the Edinburgh Park side, a couple of years ago. The field had been ploughed but it had been dry so it wasn't too bad to cycle through - but still not very good. I then came to the wooded area on the other side. Lacking Greenroofer's determination, I never managed to find a way through and turned back as I was only exploring out of curiosity.

    This could be a useful route but it's bad enough at the moment to make the southern underpass much more attractive even if it means doubling-back.

    So, not a successful reconnaissance, but the ability to go and explore interesting wee by-ways (even on my way home from work) is one of the reasons I like my bike.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  8. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @Greenroofer

    I salute you. Vegetation does not exist to be surrendered to, vegetation exists to be overcome.

    Have you a spare bicycle, or have you been forced to surrender to the tr*m?

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  9. gembo
    Member

    @greenroofer, have you checked yourself for ticks?

    Posted 9 years ago #
  10. chdot
    Admin

    Ticked off by a route that is now ticked off??

    Posted 9 years ago #
  11. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @Greenroofer

    For a man who cycles though someone's garden to avoid minor thorniness on the canal, it occurs to me that your nettle patch escapade was quite out of character.

    Do you like circuses?

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  12. chdot
    Admin

    "For a man who cycles though someone's garden"

    Do 'we' know about this?

    Posted 9 years ago #
  13. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @chdot

    GREENROOFER IS A MAN OF ABSOLUTE PROBITY.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  14. gembo
    Member

    @chdot

    nettle, corn or sheep ticks as per IWRATS earlier tick thread

    not time and motion ticks....

    Posted 9 years ago #
  15. wingpig
    Member

    @IWRATS

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  16. Greenroofer
    Member

    So I spend a day at work and when I return home I find I am being asked if I've checked myself for ticks and there are questions about my probity.

    @gembo, re the ticks. In all seriousness, yes I did a quick tick check. I reckoned that this was prime deer country and a once-over seemed a good idea.

    @IWRATS, thank you for your concern. I have a spare bike in the cupboard which I unfolded and rode on the usual route. It didn't break down. As the question of my out of character exercise, I agree, I don't know what came over me.

    @chdot, the 'gardens' IWRATS refers to is the path just north of the canal at Meggetland. See the Quietest Route on Cyclestreets. I use it at the moment when going east on the canal because it avoids the really overgrown bit of towpath that we've both complained to Scottish Canals about. It also provides a bump-free exit from the path onto Meggetland Wynd. It's not quite in the gardens of the development, although it skirts them quite closely. I don't know if what I'm doing is legal...

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  17. firedfromthecircus
    Member

    I have no idea what your budget might be Greenroofer, but have you considered a Philcentric BB rather than another vulnerable dangly chain tensioner?

    https://www.philwood.com/products/bbpages/philcentric.php

    Posted 9 years ago #
  18. gembo
    Member

    @firedfromthecircus - do you like circuses?

    Posted 9 years ago #
  19. Greenroofer
    Member

    @firedfromthecircus. Thanks for that suggestion, no I didn't now about that. The website doesn't have the price on: is this a 'if you have to ask the price you can't afford it' kind of thing? Is it particularly better than an 'ordinary' EBB?

    I ask because bizarrely the bike already has an EBB on it and it was supplied with a chain tensioner as well. Various bike shops in the past have sucked their proverbial teeth at it and have tried but failed to do away with the tensioner and just use the EBB.

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  20. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @wingpig Raise you;

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  21. gembo
    Member

    Papa lazarou, now he liked circuses

    Posted 9 years ago #
  22. Its_Me_Knees
    Member

    Well chuffed I've got a route named after me now. Not quite John Muir but little acorns and all that...

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  23. firedfromthecircus
    Member

    Greenroofer. Phil Wood leave the dealers to tell you the price, but yes, it would be pricey! Brick Lane Bikes would be the folk to call if your LBS can't help.

    Yes, it is a special eccentric as it fits standard BB shells. I assumed that you did not have any other means of tensioning the chain as you had a chain tensioner. I can't think of a good reason to run both an eccentric and a tensioner. So I would just ditch the tensioner and start using the BB you have as designed.

    Just out of interest what frame is it?

    Posted 9 years ago #
  24. Greenroofer
    Member

    @firedfromthecircus. The frame is a Raleigh Pioneer Elite 2 from five years ago. However, like my grandfather's broom (or was it his axe?), all that's actually left of the original bike is the frame, the forks, the headset, the suspension seat post, the rims and the rear hub. Everything else is has been replaced at least once.

    It's currently in hospital with Just Bike Repairs: I await with interest to see if they can work out what to do with the transmission...

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