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20mph zones

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  1. chdot
    Admin

    "Cameron Rose, who does cycle himself"

    Has even posted on here -

    http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=352#post-2682

    Posted 14 years ago #
  2. chdot
    Admin

    This is from today's 'tram story' but is quite encouraging -

    "Councillor Gordon Mackenzie, the city's transport leader, said: "Considering the scope of alterations along the on-street sections we have had a relatively low volume of objections and many of those we have received relate to wider issues rather than being specific to the Traffic Regulation Order (TRO) process."

    Posted 14 years ago #
  3. Arellcat
    Moderator

    Sure the park of all places should be a 20 anyway.

    From the roundabout at Duke's Walk/Royal Park Terrace, to Queen's Drive roundabout for Horse Wynd, the speed limit is 20mph already. The hill road is also 20mph. Not that too many car drivers seem to actually do 20mph, some not even if the swans are sleeping in the middle of the road.

    Holyrood Park Road leading to Queen's Drive is posted as 30mph, but I can't find an equivalent sign at the Holyrood end (20mph going up the hill, but 30mph coming down? Surely not.)

    Posted 14 years ago #
  4. chdot
    Admin

    "even if the swans are sleeping in the middle of the road"

    Remember -

    "How would you make the swans in Holyrood park safer from traffic?"

    Posted 14 years ago #
  5. Dave
    Member

    Traffic in the park goes way, way over 20mph. If I cut that way on the lowracer I can hit 40mph coming down from the pool towards parliament, and *still* not be keeping up with traffic!

    Luckily, the safety of people enjoying the park is subservient to using the park as a distributor road.

    Pathetic really. If there was ever a candidate for a 20mph zone with cheap average camera enforcement to keep it civil, parks are it.

    It would be interesting to hear whether, following the death of a child (say) to a speeding car, any councillor would go on record protecting high speeds in the park as "safety is not the only consideration"

    Posted 14 years ago #
  6. SRD
    Moderator

    Wrote to my councillors this morning to say that I thought the 20mph zone was a good idea (figuring they would get a lot of objections). Had replies back from two, one of who included the following from Councillor Mackenzie "which adds a bit more detail on what is happening with this proposal".

    Earlier this year, in my role as Transport Convener, I asked Council officers to look into the possibility of introducing a wider area 20mph zone in Edinburgh (on a pilot basis). Subsequently the idea was also the subject of a motion by Cllr Burgess to Council (which was amended by the Administration).

    Following my request there have been discussions with Police and S Govt officials on the feasibility of conducting a pilot and speed surveys have been conducted on streets which were being considered for inclusion. The results of this work will be reported to the Transport Infrastructure and Environment Ctte on 21st September along with a recommendation to move to the next stage of the process which is to go out to consultation.

    If agree by Ctte, the next stage will take the form of an informal consultation. This will be followed by a further report back to Ctte which, if agreed, will be followed by a statutory consultation (the proposals would be enacted via a Traffic Regulation Order). Anyone can contribute to the consultation process but specific efforts will be made to target local residents and groups within the area. As the proposal is currently drafted the proposals only affect roads within the Meadows / Morningside and Southside /Newington Wards

    The report to Ctte this month will detail the area being considered and will list the streets within the area (currently) not being included. The rationale behind the proposals, including which streets are / are not included will also be explained.

    Posted 14 years ago #
  7. spitfire
    Member

    SRD - I am nominating you for heid community cooncilor at the next AGM

    Posted 14 years ago #
  8. cb
    Member

  9. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Time to get me a cycling jersey made up with "if you pass me you're speeding" on the back then.

    Posted 14 years ago #
  10. chdot
    Admin

    "Time to get me a cycling jersey made up with "if you pass me you're speeding" on the back then."

    In these days of 'smart stuff' it ought to be possible to get a whole lot of LEDs wired up to your bike's computer to display your speed.

    Probably more accurate than most car speedos!!

    Posted 14 years ago #
  11. ARobComp
    Member

    "In these days of 'smart stuff' it ought to be possible to get a whole lot of LEDs wired up to your bike's computer to display your speed."

    Oh why did you say that. Looks like thats my spare money gone for the next couple months!

    Posted 14 years ago #
  12. ruggtomcat
    Member

    Saw the first sign the other day on Gardeners Crescent.

    made me :)

    Posted 14 years ago #
  13. Dave
    Member

    The "read your speed" signs in Leith Links are still smiling when the taxis go past at 30mph (in a 20mph zone)...

    Posted 14 years ago #
  14. chdot
    Admin

    Speed limit to be lowered to 20mph in Wales

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-62020427.amp

    Posted 2 years ago #
  15. chdot
    Admin

  16. chdot
    Admin

    A Conservative councillor from Sunderland with no apparent links to Wales is running multiple Facebook groups opposing the 20mph limit here despite apparently supporting the limit in his hometown. A WalesOnline investigation has shown that the administrators of these social media groups have direct links to the Conservative Party.

    https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/politics/english-tory-politicians-running-facebook-28449407

    Posted 10 months ago #

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