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Chicane Removal!

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  • Started 9 years ago by drnoble
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  1. drnoble
    Member

    Was cycling down the link [1] between the Peffermill Industrial Estate and the Innocent Railway crossing of Duddingston Road West — and to my pleasant surprise the annoying chicanes at both ends have been removed.

    Not sure if this is a permanent thing, or if they are to be replaced with something new. Although it looked a reasonably tidy job, rather than something partially completed.

    I think this must have been done in the last 2-3 weeks, as they were there last time I went down that way.

    [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/55.93518/-3.14573&layers=C

    Posted 9 years ago #

  2. chdot
    Admin

    I only noticed this on Sunday -

    Surprised no-one has mentioned before.

    Also in today's EN -

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/restoration-firm-on-the-brink-over-bridge-work-1-3580131

    Posted 9 years ago #

  3. SRD
    Moderator

    I think a guy on twitter (don't know if he's on here too or not) had been chasing this - very effectively!

    Regarding the news story, i don't see how a company like that could rely on drop-in/drive by business.

    Posted 9 years ago #

  4. cb
    Member

    Is this not becuase this path is being used as a temporary ambulance route whilst the roadworks are taking place on Peffermill Road?

    There was a clip on Twitter a while back of a car blatantly using the path.

    Posted 9 years ago #

  5. Arellcat
    Moderator

    Wasn't this barrier removed to allow temporary, low speed, access by emergency vehicles while the usual route was blocked?

    Posted 9 years ago #

  6. kaputnik
    Moderator

    @SRD yes I agree it's really stretching the correlation with causation. I think the article conveniently misses that access to this business has been maintained, it's just traffic coming from direction of Willowbrae which would be affected (and needing all of a 1.5 mile detour).

    Architectural salvage fire places aren't really the stuff of drop-in purchases on a whim, and it's hard to imagine without an immense leap of the imagination that vehicular traffic passing from one particular section of north Edinburgh was generating 96% of their weekly income.

    If you've set your heart on a salvaged, restored fire place, and set out to look for one, I'm sure you will have the determination in the face of adversity to see the 1.5 mile detour through to it's 5 minute conclusion. We passed this way the other day and didn't see lots of disappointed would-be fireplace buyers U-turning at the roadworks and heading back to Willowbrae to their cold, featureless living rooms.

    Posted 9 years ago #

  7. acsimpson
    Member

    I'm not sure any business could survive if 96% of it's business was passing trade and only 4% targeted customers or repeat business.

    Posted 9 years ago #

  8. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    This is either a business which is failing and looking for a payout, a straightforward journalistic invention or, most likely, a mixture of the two.

    I pass that way quite a bit and there is rarely a tailback outside their yard.

    Posted 9 years ago #

  9. HankChief
    Member

    Some positive words about a couple of my least favourite chicanes.


    I can provide the following updates:

    1) Broomhall Road - Dovecot Road path: We have established that this path is owned by MacTaggart and Mickel. We have started discussions with them regarding making changes to the barriers at either end of the path. We also hope to discuss the potential for the path to be upgraded to adoptable standards which the Council would then officially adopt for maintenance.

    2) Corstorphine Bank Drive / Forrester Road: We have established that the path at this location is under the joint management of the property owners fronting it. We plan to discuss making changes to the barriers with the owners and, if they are amenable, we will progress these works.

    Depending on the time taken to obtain consent to carry out remedial works, we would look to carry out changes to these barriers later this year.

    Posted 9 years ago #

  10. chdot
    Admin

    Wow!

    (Just, wow!)

    Posted 9 years ago #

  11. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @HankChief

    Any bollards (or chicanes) in need of protection at all?

    Posted 9 years ago #

  12. HankChief
    Member

    @IWRATS: These ones are quite special - zoom in a and you'll see the far ones are in the middle of the pavement.


    Bollards by HankChief, on Flickr

    Posted 9 years ago #

  13. chdot
    Admin

    They're all special.

    Posted 9 years ago #

  14. fimm
    Member

    @HankChief where are those?

    Posted 9 years ago #

  15. wingpig
    Member

    One side-effect of the removal of the chicane on the wee path between Mountcastle Crescent and Fishwives' Causeway is that there is now rarely any broken glass where the bit between the gates used to be.

    Posted 9 years ago #

  16. HankChief
    Member

    @fimm: Gyle Park by the entrance to the David Lloyd club.

    Posted 9 years ago #

  17. chdot
    Admin

    Related Flickr group - Barriers to Cycling in Edinburgh.

    Posted 9 years ago #

  18. chdot
    Admin

    "

    The Northside Leadership Conference Bike/Ped Committee is collecting signatures to support the removal of the gates along the Three Rivers Heritage Trail, and replace them with reflective posts that are easier to navigate.

    "

    http://bikepgh.org/2015/03/04/petition-to-replace-the-gates-along-the-trail-in-the-northside

    "

    Northside Bike/Ped Committee was named 2013 Advocacy Group of the Year by BikePGH!

    "

    Posted 9 years ago #

  19. HankChief
    Member

    Interestingly when I went through Gyle Park this morning I spotted that the near left concrete bollard is no more. I wonder why?

    Posted 9 years ago #

  20. acsimpson
    Member

    Some good news regarding chicanes. Over the last few weeks the chicane between Barntongate and Maybury has been removed. Although strangely they (I assume it was also them) has removed the shared use sign that appeared there a few years ago.

    Posted 8 months ago #

  21. fimm
    Member

    On this subject: It used to be that heading from Musselburgh station to the River Esk path you had to go through a park with a pair of very tight chicanes. These can now be bypassed on nice tarmac throughout.

    Approaching the station from QMU, instead of crossing the railway as signposted, go straight on on a broad shared use path next to the railway. Go under the branch line (leading to the Millerhill sidings) and look for a bridge under the main line to the left. This used to be muddy and contain an utterly impassible (to bikes) barrier; this has been removed and there is now shiny new tarmac and no barrier or chicane of any kind. You come out the other side of the park with the awkward chicanes and can pick up the cycle route signs again.

    Posted 8 months ago #

  22. Frenchy
    Member

    Spokes are looking for examples of chicane barriers which should be removed/replaced with a bollard: https://twitter.com/SpokesLothian/status/1735231623774220375

    Edit: Will happily take examples posted here too. And not just on cycle paths - footpaths as well.

    Posted 4 months ago #

  23. Arellcat
    Moderator

    I noticed last week that the chicane beside the care home near Allan Park has been removed entirely. I was quite surprised, because it has been fairly useable ever since they rebuilt it to the correct spacing.

    Curiously, the pair of concrete bollards further along the path towards Meggetland have also disappeared. I've been going that way for many years but never got round to a bit of guerilla sticking reflective material to them.

    A pair of chicanes that could do with being removed are on the northern path between the A701 and Corby Craig Crescent in Bilston. Likewise, the chicane at the western end of Corby Craig Walk, where it meets Seafield Road, is pretty pointless and is leading to a nice desire line.

    Posted 4 months ago #

  24. acsimpson
    Member

    A lot of chicanes have been removed around West Edinburgh in the last couple of years but one set springs to mind which hasn't.

    The temporary concrete chicanes which are at the top and bottom of Cammo Walk. They do a very good job of keeping vehicles out but they are so close together that they are hard to navigate.

    Posted 4 months ago #

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