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Holyrood Park Bike Path

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  1. CJC
    Member

    What is the "correct" way to access the bike path alongside the road in Holyrood Park, particularly between Holyrood Palace and Pollock Halls?

    South Bound:

    At Holyrood Palace I cycle along Horse Wynd and then, at the roundabout with Queen's Drive, I use the lowered kerb to access the bike path. A lot of drivers have got very annoyed at me doing this manoeuvre. I signal clearly and take a primary position, but many drive very very close and I have had quite a few shout and gesture at me angrily! I don't know what else I can do to annoy them less.

    Once I reach the top of the hill, I have to continue past the roundabout and join with the road coming from the back of Arthur's Seat. This bit isn't really a problem, except it is annoying having to wait at the roundabout to rejoin the traffic which you will ultimately overtake in a second as they queue at the next roundabout.

    North Bound:

    After I pass Pollock Halls I go left at the roundabout with Duddingston Low Road and get to a second roundabout. How do I join the bike path from here? The only lowered kerb entrance would involve going through the no-entry sign and heading the wrong way on a one way road. The only other option is to stop on the roundabout and carry my bike over the grass onto the bike path. Neither seem very sensible.

    When I reach the roundabout beside Parliament, there doesn't seem to be a nice way to head along Horse Wynd. I can use the lowered kerbs and islands at the roundabout to cross the road but it is hard to join the traffic flow here at peak times.

    Presumably other people have experienced this before and discussed it (I searched but didn't find anything).

    I can provide photographs of the junctions later if this isn't clear.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  2. Roibeard
    Member

    I confess that I don't use this path north bound, sticking to the road and primary position all the way down the hill, which isn't too bad, except when I need to brake for timid drivers...

    Clearly this is only suitable for those comfortable with big hills and relatively high speeds.

    Your solution of walking at both ends is probably what was intended.

    Southbound, I don't usually join the path at Horse Wynd (I'm usually coming from Meadowbank), but your option of turning left immediately after leaving the roundabout seems reasonable - but again I'm increasingly obstreperous in the face of impatient bullies...

    It is a bit of pain having to go past the roundabout only to return to it, but that's a price I'm prepared to pay for not having someone driving on my rear wheel as I pant up the hill!

    Robert

    Posted 10 years ago #
  3. wingpig
    Member

    Pollockwards I always just go right to the end of the path, come back down the one-way road and join the roundabout, treating it as a bonus few metres of exercise.
    Parliamentwards is assessed case-by-case as I usually just take the road, unless lugging a trailer or (as yesterday evening) the road is gummed due to faffing and stuff at the Parliament. Most often I'll join the roundabout at a dropkerb and go round it to cross it.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  4. twq
    Member

    It has been really busy at rush hour through the park this week. I have been overtaking cars, and many drivers have been taking exception to that. I've had people point at the bike path (which I almost never use, due to issues mentioned above), flashing lights, shouting abuse. Like I'm the one causing the traffic...

    Posted 10 years ago #
  5. Cyclingmollie
    Member

    Southbound, if you mean you take primary then join the path just past the big rock then I do the same. And yes some drivers will try to undertake me. I do the same as you at the top - up the one way the wrong way and back to the roundabout. Northbound at the Dynamic Earth roundabout I cross using the dropped kerbs just before the roundabout in order to reach the cyclepath towards Holyrood Road. Often blocked by queuing drivers though.
    On the road bike I just go down the road.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  6. Bhachgen
    Member

    I've never used it downhill. As much as anything is the recommended limit for shared paths not 15mph? Even with a trailer on I'd be likely to be exceeding that for a good chunk of it.

    Uphill it's a bit of a faff as detailed above but generally worth it.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  7. crowriver
    Member

    With a trailer, loaded up, you go faster downhill. Trust me on that. Need good brakes...

    Posted 10 years ago #
  8. gibbo
    Member

    Uphill: as CJC described - except on Sundays, when I use the road.

    Downhill: I use the road. It's faster, safer (better surface), less congested, and I'm going fast enough to not hold up traffic. (Except in headwinds, or for those who either want to speed.)

    Posted 10 years ago #
  9. kaputnik
    Moderator

    I take the path downhill with the trailer if there's something fragile in it or I'm not confident over how well I've loaded it. It's good uphill when you're carrying any weight as traffic is otherwise trying to squeeze past you at 30-40mph.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  10. CJC
    Member

    Thank you for all the responses.

    As others have said, I too never use the bike path towards Holyrood. I always stick to the road and I'm constantly amazed at people who overtake me when I am doing 30+mph. As the weather gets worse I'll probably start to use the path because it's a bit scary how many people squeeze past you.

    I think I will try to use the bike path over the next few days to see how it goes.

    I still find joining southboard (towards Pollock) pretty poor. I wonder if the National Trust would be open to adapting it?

    Posted 10 years ago #
  11. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Don't forget to feed your above experiences into the 20mph consultation given the proposal is to keep the road at 30mph cut-through despite having blanket of 20mph at all entrances and exits.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  12. acsimpson
    Member

    I haven't used the path lately but have always found it to be too narrow and full of pedestrians to be any use downhill. Generally I stick in primary and keep up with the traffic. normally some numpty will still overtake me and I'll end up having to pass them when they join the queue for the roundabout.

    @CJC, presumably you mean Historic Scotland, although I think it is the council who are responsible for the road through the park, although I'm not sure about the one round the top.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  13. cc
    Member

    When using the cycle path, particularly the absurdly narrow shared section on the hill, a good bell can be a big help.

    Posted 10 years ago #

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