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I only want one of these as a commuting bag. So...
Does anyone have one for sale?
Failing that, anyone want to but one for half of whatever I have to pay for a pair?
Cheapest I've seen them is on Wiggle for £92, so that would be £46 for one. I'm thinking orange, but happy to choose colour to suit prospective buyer.
http://www.wiggle.co.uk/ortlieb-back-roller-classic-panniers/
Google around, you will find them much cheaper than that elsewhere.
Keep the second for shopping trips?
Or, Scotby Cycles seems to be selling them singly @ ~£40. It's the "City" variant, not sure precise difference from the "Classic" but it looks very similar.
City has side-clips only, so it can't be closed when over-filled. The Classic has a long strap which provides built-in means of tying things together when you've stuffed loads in. Obviously carrying a couple of bungee cords at the bottom of the bag will get round that.
There's a main dealer in Ambleside who will supply them singly for £55.
http://www.ortlieb.co.uk/catalogsearch/result/?q=back+roller+classic+single
Yet a pair will be cheaper if you can find a purchase buddy...
Robert
Plenty on fleaBay, lightly used or new. Red seems to be the dominant colour on offer. New single panniers from one seller for £36, choice of colours (not orange).
Sustrans sell branded ones for £100 for a pair, but if you (or someone that you know) donates more than £5 per month then you should able to save 20% (I think). Having said that, I see that couriering them will cost £9.50...
I usually only roll with one but have had two on the past two days. Much better. More balanced, no over stuffing. Cars give wider berth. I have in fact broken them by over stuffing singly. Repaired by McNett seamgrip, great stuff. They are very dear especially as a pair plus you have to cart two around the place and yet I feel two is the correct number though I deny this daily.
Also have pair of smaller EBC panniers that picked up for thirty quid. If I use them then always go with two. They have too many pockets and are not waterproof without covers. Canal towpath cyclist known as Hoover has them on front - bit big for this but he has child seat on back.
Make a pair of roll-up panniers like the Brooks Brick Lane panniers. There when you need them, gone when you don't. When I've finished making my knock-off "Carradice" long flap Nelson/Camper I'll let you know how easy it is.
I fancy their Boultbee Cape which is priced in a comparable way to their saddles. The other garments they offer to the public are excessively pricey.
It seems to me that the Achilles heel of Ortliebs is abrasion. Could you not buy cheap panniers and waterproof liners like you can for rucksacks? Then replace the liner or the cheap pannier as required.
I have a pair of Vaude roll-tops, which did very well. I only ever used the right hand one and it burst a seam after about ten years of daily use. Abrasion was never an issue due to the solid plastic back-plate which took all the abuse from the rack.
I need to get the left hand pannier out of the attic and start using it in fact. My current rucksack-toting avatar is pure affectation.
PS If anyone wants to mend the 10cm tear in the right hand one they can have it.
It seems to me that the Achilles heel of Ortliebs is abrasion.
Being cordura, it's fairly easy to patch any worn areas. I've done this twice. You can also double-patch any high-wear areas peculiar to your own particular bike frame / rack. I have a 0.5mm chunk of aluminium worn out of one of the struts of my pannier rack where it rubs against the plastic of the Ortlieb clamp. There's no damage to the plastic.
I've also re-sewn a burst inner divider on a back roller.
A nice feature of the back rollers is that they are ambidextrous. You could buy a set and have 2 left panniers or 2 right panniers if you wanted, just by mounting the holding arm appropriately.
I've currently got one of my Ortlieb back rollers at the distributors patching up an abrasion split.
They seemed more than happy to attempt a patch up. I was angling for a replacement under their 5 year guarantee, but abrasion isn't covered.
To be fair, it has spent 2 years of daily commuting on my bodged rail(to fit under my childseat) which means it wasn't sitting right.
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I like the idea of capes, particularly for walking but I'm more likely, on the bike, to just get wet so long as I can keep warm. If Scotland were less windy, capes would be a good idea.
Ortliebs are very hard wearing. My Bikepackers are still in near daily use some 15 years on, albeit heavily repaired with PVC tarp, glue, rivets and nuts & bolts.
The Brooksesque proofed cotton panniers were dead easy to make.
The saddlebag was a bit trickier but still very doable, especially if you don't inspect the stitching too closely.
Do you do mail order, Insto?
Insto, you can team up with DaveC and start a wee sideline in hand-stitched waxed cotton cycling accessories: panniers, saddlebags, tool rolls, rain capes.
Nah, then it would be like work.
I'm planning on ordering panniers with some other bits from the Sustrans shop using my 20% off - if anyone did want a Sustrans branded set of Panniers for £80 (plus a small contribution to the £9.50 courier charge would be appreciated) then let me know (assuming of course that the discount isn't limited to a single set or anything along those lines). The colour choices are black, blue, orange, red and yellow as pictured: http://www.sustrans.org.uk/shop/clothing-accessories/ortlieb-sustrans-panniers
@jdanielp - Thanks, but I finally cracked and bought a pair last week, otherwise I'd have taken you up on this.
@urchaidh ah well, sorry I didn't make that suggestion a little sooner then although it was only after subsequent thought (in particular, relating to how un-waterproof my Altura Urban 20 'Dryline' pannier turned out to be in an all day deluge) that I decided that I would actually buy a pair. So how have you been finding them, assuming that you've got hold of them already, and did you get orange? I'm currently deciding what colour to choose - slightly disappointed that Sustrans don't do the grey others do.
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