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  1. Fountainbridge
    Member

    I looked in to the car parking on Craiglockhart Terrace pavement a while ago. That pavement is described as "redundant" and is due for removal. This was part of the introduction of parking restrictions from noon to 2:30pm (or something) in that street.

    You've actually taken that pic on a good day. Normally cars are right up to the edge.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  2. SRD
    Moderator

    that's crappy. it's a lovely quiet street. many of the houses have parking on their property. can never figure out where the rest come form.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  3. Fountainbridge
    Member

    Can't remember where I was reading about the removal of the pavement, but I can see various references to it being considered. Also found a comment suggesting the pavement on both sides be narrowed!

    The parkers in Criaglockhart Terrace seem to be a mix of park & riders and local residents of Meggetland Terrace / Colinton Road.

    The street is the first side road outside the S3 parking zone. Much busier during the day than at night.

    Meggetland Terrace is narrow and presume has lots of displaced car parkers.

    On Colinton Road more spaces have been lost due to the new pedestrian crossing, relocated bus stops and also the car club parking.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  4. algo
    Member

    Every day at the moment the bike line on Marchmont Road is blocked by the many vans from Maxim Developments - a company doing up a flat there. I am sympathetic to the need to park to drop stuff off, but when they are not used for anything I find it annoying and dangerous for cyclists - particularly if they are parked on both sides of the road which is sometimes the case. I don't want to be sanctimonious about this, but with a child on board having to face often fast oncoming traffic unnecessarily isn't much fun.


    Posted 8 years ago #
  5. kaputnik
    Moderator

    https://twitter.com/cocteautriplets/status/637541227064332288 (sorry, can't figure out how to embed tweet picture in BB code)

    Posted 8 years ago #
  6. The Boy
    Member

    Snax Cafe van was parked there the other night after Green Party EGM so is obviously their preferred place to cause obstruction.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  7. chdot
    Admin

    "obviously their preferred place to cause obstruction"

    Forgot to post these on Saturday -

    Posted 8 years ago #
  8. mgj
    Member

    So we boycott them and let them know that such parking like that has financial consequences. I continue to boycott La Favorita for the same reason.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  9. mgj
    Member

    @algo, their parked vehicles also affect the sight lines for a crossing that had a fatality on it a couple of years ago.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  10. algo
    Member

    @mgj - thanks good point. I have attempted tweetering...

    https://twitter.com/Algorhythmica1/status/638282557038137344

    Posted 8 years ago #
  11. chdot
    Admin

    Gifford Park Twit

    https://twitter.com/cyclingedin/status/638289519880634368

    Posted 8 years ago #
  12. algo
    Member

    no response to tweet from Maxim contracts, nor any change in behaviour- have attempted to include south_team in the tweet. Saw someone this morning have to abort pulling out round them as they were (I think) intimidated by a bus... it's genuinely dangerous

    Posted 8 years ago #
  13. dougal
    Member

    The London Road roundabout is bad enough but people want to park all the way round it. No pictures, it's a daily event on both sides of the roundabout.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  14. algo
    Member

    Advised by the council that double parking is not their concern, I complained to the Police about the double and triple parking blocking the cycle lanes and sightlines to the crossing on Marchmont Road. They closed the complaint, with a note saying the case was referred to the council parking wardens. Said wardens say it's not their problem. Apparently the police can only intervene if there is a complete blockage preventing any traffic from passing.

    So basically feel free to double park where you like, as there will be no repercussions.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  15. Snowy
    Member

    Indeed, so it appears.

    But it actually sounds a lot like laziness.

    See page 3 of this. I presume this also applies in Scotland for the time being.

    So the definition of 'obstruction' appears to be fuzzier than a woolly thing on a foggy day.

    However - Highway Code rules 240 and (even better) rule 243 are pretty clear.

    The SNAX CAFE van is pretty close to a full bingo card there. That should have been removed by the police, pronto.

    Maxim are simply taking the mick in the knowledge that Edinburgh's finest apparently can't be arsed to enforce the law.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  16. Christmas Eve about ten years ago I was retrieving presents from my flat in Comely Bank. It was about 10pm (and all though the streets, not a creature was stirring...). Nowhere to park, so I doubled, ran up, back down, roughly 3 minutes. I had just finished writing a text to my mum that I was on my way (before starting the car back up) when a police car rolled alongside and asked me to move on as I was creating an obstruction.

    Didn't have much luck there. A little later the next year I needed something and the streets were completely packed. It was about 11.30pm, In the end I parked on double yellows, remembering the 5 minute rule. I was in and out in plenty time for that, but somehow a warden had been there and done the deed on the windscreen.

    I paid up (I knew I shouldn't have been parking there), but with the cheque sent a letter asking if I should have double parked instead because that's what I was specifically avoiding. I got a response saying that basically they (the council wardens) could do nothing about double parking as it was a police matter.

    Don't think I've double parked, or got a ticket (deliberately*) since.

    *twice I've paid for a bay to the maximum time allowed in the city centre, and had appointments run over, and come back to tickets. I think one was a job interview if memory serves. Would just take the bus these days.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  17. gembo
    Member

    @wilmington's cow, just because you are paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you.

    You didn't temporarily lose consciousness about ten years ago at Xmas ? If you can remember,? I would do full body scan looking for small red mark with wee hard bit behind it, sometimes the ankle is the place. Sounds like you have been tagged and will be caught at any time when you run over on a meter or park on a double yellow line?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  18. algo
    Member

    @Snowy - thanks - yep laziness I reckon, and Maxim are well aware no-one's going to do anything about it...

    Posted 8 years ago #
  19. crowriver
    Member

    I took these photos over the past few days near the place I’m currently staying (temporarily) in Leith Walk/Easter Road area. Double parking is a big problem round here but I'm now seeing an epidemic of pavement parking, which annoys me greatly. Please note the free parking spaces in the background of many of these photos. The parking is ‘Residents Only’ and requires a permit. The solution if no permit? Simple. Park on the pavement!

    This Audi sporting Romanian plates has been parked here for over a week. Has not moved once.

    This Renault was here for three days, has now gone.

    This Nissan has been here for a week, not moved an inch.

    This Vauxhall, perhaps encouraged by the other pavement parkers, recently arrived and has been here for two days.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  20. Fountainbridge
    Member

    Only thing in that street that would help would be bollards, but they're no longer council policy. Double yellows might help but as already said it won't stop the 100% pavement parking.

    I've had various people reply to my tweets about pavement parking that the double yellows extend from the centre of the road to the far edge of the pavement. Never been able to confirm that though.

    Only other thing is to stick bits of paper on the windows "As seen on Scotland Worst Drivers" - @ScoWorstDrivers

    Posted 8 years ago #
  21. crowriver
    Member

    Oh, these drivers have scrupulously avoided the double yellows, and parking in the empty residents parking bays. They apparently realise that no-one will bother to penalise them for blocking the footpath.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  22. wishicouldgofaster
    Member

    My sisters boyfriend is a parking attendent and gets rather annoyed at the lack of action by the police. Dangerous parking and obstruction is usually the responsibility of the police but even when attendents point it out the police tend just to ignore it. I have a feeling that pavement parking is a police matter but on the rare occassions they do something it has to be blocking practically the entire pavement.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  23. mgj
    Member

    So we come back to the best form of enforcement; a car parked on a pavement is not insured, and social mores encourage it to be damaged. All the pedestrians, parents with buggies, wee scrotes etc have carte blanche to take their keys along the sides, pull the wing mirrors off etc

    (I understand this is how Dutch cycle lanes are kept clear; if you park in one, you are liable to find your car bound with gaffa tape)

    Posted 8 years ago #
  24. fimm
    Member

    "(I understand this is how Dutch cycle lanes are kept clear; if you park in one, you are liable to find your car bound with gaffa tape)"

    Seriously? I do think that low-level inconvenience to people who inconvenience an endanger others would - well, what? Get people to think? Annoy people? Highlight that the police aren't enforcing the law, so people are taking the the law into their own hands?

    Yarn-bombing badly parked cars would be a great thing, I think...

    Posted 8 years ago #
  25. acsimpson
    Member

    How about this as an option. It would take a bit more planning though.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  26. neddie
    Member

    I'm pretty sure that gaffer tape round your car would be more than a 'low level inconvenience'.

    It would be extremely difficult to remove and would almost certainly damage the paintwork in the process.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  27. steveo
    Member

    tough?

    actually real gaffer tape should come off cleanly and damage nothing. The problem is that people conflate gaffer/duct/duck/etc tape.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  28. dougal
    Member

    Extended car park at the Tesco in Linlithgow is hoaching with bad parking. People just abandon their vehicles wherever, in the middle of the thoroughfare, mounting the kerb, at odd angles across the entrance/exit etc. Though what can you expect from people who enter via the Exit Only route?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  29. neddie
    Member

    @steveo

    In that case what I'm referring to is the 200degC fireplace tape (like duct/duck tape, only can take high temps). That stuff never comes off. In fact, back in the day, I used it to hold a Mini headlight on - it lasted around 3 years.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  30. dougal
    Member

    Thought I'd get a shot of today's parking shenanigans, as described above.

    Posted 8 years ago #

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