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Tour groups will be dropped off elsewhere and forced to walk to their hotels.
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"Tour coaches banned from Princes Street"
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Posted 9 years ago #
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In Previous discussions with council we were told that they couldn't restrict the street to certain busses. Baffled that they would just change their minds.
Supposedly their inability to restrict some buses was why they couldn't consider alex bottrill's proposal which was a million times better than the current mess.
Posted 9 years ago # -
"alex bottrill's proposal"
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Posted 9 years ago # -
It's available somewhere. Was discussed at length.
The one that uses interchanges and removes through buses.
Posted 9 years ago # -
Is this not one where they would have to change the restriction from "buses" to "local buses only"?
It might get those kamikaze Rabbie's Trailburners / Haggis Tours off of Princes Street, unfortunately it might therefore displace them to somewhere with more cyclists.
Posted 9 years ago # -
"one that uses interchanges and removes through buses"
That was the original plan when trams were being planned -
'Haymarket and somewhere at the east end'
Politicians were rapidly told 'the public wouldn't put up with it'.
Not helped by there being no certainty about common fares and transferable tickets (still!!)
I don't understand why LB hasn't made more effort to route more buses away from Princes Street and turn round some at Haymarket.
Staying on the same bus for a cross-town journey obviously has attractions, but surely not if it involves significant time in a slow bus queue?
Posted 9 years ago # -
@chdot LB might have to bite the bullet about it's one-fare-fits-all policy and introduce something like a "through" ticket for long distance journeys involving a chance.
Q. What looks like Lothian buses, is run by Lothian buses, owned by Lothian buses, accepts Lothian buses tickets but doesn't have a flat fare structure?
A. Lothian Country Buses, who run the 104 and 113 services out to Ormiston / Haddington way. It's basically LB until you leave their traditional stomping ground and into darker East Lothian at which point a zone system applies and ticket prices increase accordingly.
Buses useful for me as they all go up Waterloo Place and avoid the catastrophe of trying to get through Piccardy Place and up Leith Street or across St. Andrew Square at rush hour.
Green colour scheme a throw back to the old "London Country Buses" where inner city services were London Red and suburban / provincial ones were Green.
Posted 9 years ago # -
One of the suggestions for the post-St James Centre renewal Picardy Place is a large ped plaza with public transport interchange. However, I've also heard Council officials say that LB won't make significant changes to the bus routes until the tram runs all the way down Leith Walk...
Posted 9 years ago # -
"until the tram runs all the way down Leith Walk"
Can't wait
Oh
Wait
Posted 9 years ago # -
Green colour scheme a throw back to the old "London Country Buses" where inner city services were London Red and suburban / provincial ones were Green.
I assumed it was harking back to the SMT days? I have memories of hearing a gran ask her grandchild at a Clerk Street bus stop whether he wanted to take "a Hearts bus or a Hibbies bus"...
Posted 9 years ago # -
@PS hadn't thought about that, it's quite an obvious link too with the colour. We used to think of them as the Hibs and Hearts buses when I was little.
Posted 9 years ago # -
@K Maybe you were that very grandchild... :-o ;-)
Posted 9 years ago # -
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Scottish Motor Traction (SMT) was founded in Edinburgh in 1905. It operated buses in much of central Scotland. Aside from its traditional bus operations, it operated an air taxi service with a De Havilland Fox Moth between July 18 and October 31, 1932 and for many years owned Dryburgh Abbey Hotel. Following legislation, which allowed railway companies to invest in bus operators, the LNER and LMSR took a major stake in SMT in 1929. In 1930, following the takeover of another operator, SMT started its Edinburgh to London express coach service.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_Motor_Traction
http://www.edinphoto.org.uk/1_edin/1_edinburgh_history_-_recollections_driving_smt_buses.htm
Posted 9 years ago # -
Maybe you were that very grandchild
Except I had no business being up Clerk Street at that age!
Posted 9 years ago # -
Aye, the SMT used to serve East Lothian. First still had green and cream buses until they all went that hideous purple and blue...
"closed to tour buses and long-distance coaches"
So, we can look forward to more Citylink/Megabus death wish drivers hurtling around the George Street unsignalised roundabouts, maiming and killing cyclists and/or pedestrians as they try to hit that timetabled stop/fag and coffee break at Edinburgh Bus Station?
Posted 9 years ago #
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