evening news is asking people if 'traffic in the city is getting worse' and to tweet them on #edcommute .
maybe good if a few of you multi-modal folk contributed?
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evening news is asking people if 'traffic in the city is getting worse' and to tweet them on #edcommute .
maybe good if a few of you multi-modal folk contributed?
Comments actually worth reading! (So far.)
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Jim Millar (@Jim_Millar)
12/11/2014 10:33
My commute used to be around 40 mins. Now often an hour or more. Davidsons Mains, Blackhall etc really bad. York Place nightmare.#edcommute
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He might be part of the problem!
This is a minority view!
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12/11/2014 11:44 AM GST
HELP MA BOAB
Congestion was caused by all the measures taken by CEC to ensure that no-one could travel easily through the city using their own transport. It is a wholly manufactured situation created by the David Begg Brigade who should have been voted out of office years ago and replaced with people who actually have the good of the city in mind.
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Lots of "road capacity" in those comments.
Pity the EEN hasn't tried to initiate a mass crowdsource of .GPX tracks from various modes of commuter.
Hope they are not live tweeting from their cars......
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Chris Sinclair (@chrissinclair82)
12/11/2014 12:33
Dunfermline to Leith, Bicycle, 16.5 miles, Dep 6.20 Arr 7.25 Stopped at traffic lights on Ferry Road #edcommute
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John MacInnes (@mcdoggydog)
12/11/2014 12:00
Silverknowes to Pleasance, bicycle, five miles, Dep 8.07 Arr 8.34 almost all off-road. A pleasure rather than a commute #edcommute
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HankChief (@hank_chief)
12/11/2014 11:57
@edinburghpaper Roseburn to Maybury, bike, 8am, 20mins. No delays from traffic as can sail past the queues. #edcommute
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Maybe EN will take note(?)
From the divine pen of STAN THE MAN:
"There is no excuse for an able-bodied person getting round the city with a bike or bus strapped to their backside."
Do people attach bikes or buses to their behinds? Should only disabled people do so? What does this mean?
"Reopen George St now !!!"
It is still open, isn't it? I cycle along there regularly.
Did people driving cars actually use George Street as an East-West route? And they thought this was quicker than using Queen Street?
I'm not on Twitter, but for me Corstorphine-Tollcross by bike takes about 20 mins (back streets & cycle paths, about 3.5 miles). Could probably take 5 mins off that by using St John's Road/Corstorphine Road. Same journey by bus door-to-door about 25 mins in rush hour. Dread to think how long the car would take.
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magpa
ban HGV's from city centre at certain times (london during the Olympics)
Invest in P&R's and the bus services
More bus lanes to make getting the bus a proper option. It takes 45 min to get from city centre to Newbridge if the bus could do it faster then people would use it
Proper cycle lanes - not just coloured bits of tarmac or pavements designated as shared use - to encourage people to cycle rather than drive
Invest in the roads
Have the police visible at traffic black spots to stop drivers stopping on hatchings or entering roundabouts where they have nowhere to go
None of this will ever happen of course
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Really not that many comments under EN story, more on Twitter - high proportion mentioning commutes by bike!
The thing is urban commuter cyclists are smug persons who take great delight in pointing out how much quicker thier commute is than doing it by car. ;-)
My commute would definitely be quicker by car, most of the time. There's no way I'd ever do it, though.
"There's no way I'd ever do it, though"
Have you ever tried?
Cosy, warm. Comfy seat. Radio on. Eating doughnuts. You'd better not try it.
I love the comments about road capacity. They remind me of a fat, middle-age bore trying to squeeze themselves into a 30 inch waist pair of jeans.
"Honestly, they used to fit fine - always plenty of room. I blame my wife for the lack of capacity - she should stop shrinking them in the wash!"
Noted. Will start tweeting my experiences on Twitter with that hashtag.
I'm a smug urban cycle commuter... Showing that cycling is faster than a car is one tangible way of highlighting just one of the benefits, but it's probably low down the list of why people do it / continue to do it.
I once had a boss who lent me her Audi TT and parking space for a fortnight. I lasted 3 days...
It wasn't the traffic jams that got to me, it was missing the exercise and fresh air that woke me up in the morning.
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Joanna Mowat (@jomowat)
12/11/2014 18:36
Hard slog uphill to centre if town from Canonmills up Rodney st, broughton then Albany and Dublin Sts but speedy home #edcommute
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Another cycling Conservative councillor.
It's quite weird how almost all the people on Twitter, responding to EN, cycle!!
@cb a train has all (or the potential to have all) of those things and the added bonus of being able to read a book rather than concentrate intently on not killing myself or anyone else with my ton of dangerous machinery...
Lots more added last night and this am - mostly cyclers!!
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Green Roofer (@Green_Roofer)
12/11/2014 21:36
#edcommute Craighouse to Gogarburn at 0725 by bike. 6.2 miles, mostly along the canal. 24 minutes. 30secs delay caused by ducks on the path
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"Lots more added last night and this am - mostly cyclers!!"
Presumably that means drivers don't actually think that the traffic is that bad after all?
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BOB LEPONGE
8:25 AM on 14/11/2014
Yes it's the worst it's ever been. Want to know why, dear Cooncillors? It's because of stupid trams, stupid bus lanes, stupid road closures, stupid cycle lanes, stupid road-narrowing, stupid pavement-widening, stupid chicanes, stupid speed bumps and traffic mismanagement in general. Wake up and smell the anger.
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EXERCISE DODGER
7:14 PM on 13/11/2014
You only have to look at the Edinburgh City Bypass on a daily basis, morning noon and night! No trams no buses no bicycle lanes no street furniture or traffic lights, pedestrians or cyclists, simply wall to wall with fit able bodied men and women too selfish and lazy to go anywhere without a car seat strapped firmly to their large idle bottoms, creating Cancer causing pollution and business suppressing congestion! Until the CEC stamps on and stamps out these shameless shirkers and their lazy antisocial lifestyle then our most vulnerable citizens young and old will continue to pay for this unnecessary situation with their life's!
http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/toxic-edinburgh-air-pollution-kills-200-a-year-1-3372279
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THE AYRSHIRE BARD
6:15 PM on 13/11/2014
Just over 50 years ago my wife could commute from Joppa to the Waverly on the suburban train. she worked in St Andrew's Square and was then able to return home at lunch time and be back in town within the hour.
I have serious doubts if today's transport system would allow her to do that.
We had no car in these years and used a carry cot when we visited friends or relatives. This sat across our knees on the bus, unlike the push chairs of today that take up so much space that only one can travel on a bus.
However, the car is here to stay although its popularity is its own worst enemy, and our increasing population will simply enhance the problem. Traffic problems are now part of modern life and Edinburgh still has a long way to go before it joins the commuter nightmares of many other cities around the world.
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Was on the tram today. It got stuck trying to get into West Maitland Street.
This was because an Ambulance was at work on the corner of Atholl Place / Torphicen Street, and the buses ahead of it were pulling into the tram lane to go around. A bus then got stuck, then another bus got stuck. We all ended up getting stuck together.
I was waiting at the lights outside the Balmoral Hotel (that's the NB in old money) yesterday. I recalled Mr Taxi's comments about buses backing up and the lights being the cause of congestion. From what I could see from field observations, the main cause of the snarlups were the more-taxis-than-allowed stopping outside the hotel, making cheeky dropoffs for the station in the bus stop or U-turning outside the Apple Store (that's Wimpy in old money) to try and drop off for the station on the other side of Princes Street. All the buses were having to navigate the obstruction of taxis going every which way (and probably breaking a lot of regulations in the process), not the other way around.
We had no car in these years and used a carry cot when we visited friends or relatives. This sat across our knees on the bus, unlike the push chairs of today that take up so much space that only one can travel on a bus.
Halcyon days of high-floor buses, inaccessible to the disabled or frail, everyone communally choking on cigarette smoke. I have to say our buggy-pram thing is infinitely smaller than the Silver Cross of old.
EEN's travel reporter now taking offense at suggestion that they were trying to 'prompt'# drivers moaning
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