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  1. SRD
    Moderator

    NMW was covered in muck within months (weeks?) of opening. I've complained about it too many times. Anyone want to go out with me and some shovels to scrape the muck off?

    I'd like to see how much it narrows the path. It's striking that it happens on the cycle side but not on the walk side. Also puddles on that side. Maybe someone (arellcat?) could advise on the construction issues?

    Would like to get it sorted before the ice sets in.

    Have seen people scraping back turf on the links paths. Possibly fombls? Would rather just do it myself rather than involve them.

    Possibly a Saturday morning?

    Posted 9 years ago #

  2. SRD
    Moderator

    no takers then?

    Posted 9 years ago #

  3. neddie
    Member

    Cooncil's job. Sorry.

    Posted 9 years ago #

  4. chdot
    Admin

    Just Clarence it or Tweet LAH -

    "

    @LAHinds: @sds36 @CllrChasBooth it seems some Neighbourhoods are better than others. Spoke to Acting Director this morning

    "

    (About leaf clearing on paths.)

    Posted 9 years ago #

  5. SRD
    Moderator

    yes. i agree it is council's job and i massively resent doing it. But thought we might be able to use it to make a bit of a fuss about it. some nice pics. video maybe.

    also not sure i trust them to do a competent job. i want it scraped right back to edge of tarmac, not just 'swept' by machine to clear leaf-fall.

    Posted 9 years ago #

  6. wingpig
    Member

    Don't think I'll be able to make PY tomorrow but am free for the rest of the morning. I have an otherwise I useless plastic snow shovel inherited from our house's previous owner.

    Posted 9 years ago #

  7. SRD
    Moderator

    that's very tempting wingpig. i'd planned to work from home, but left essential at office, so could probably be tempted over....

    Posted 9 years ago #

  8. Arellcat
    Moderator

    Maybe someone (arellcat?) could advise on the construction issues?

    I had a look this evening, and I think it's a combination of factors.

    1) The trees along the north and south sides of NMW are not quite the same age - slightly younger, smaller trees on the southern (pedestrian/former RIE) side.
    2) The prevailing wind in the area has encouraged the younger trees to grow off-vertical. This means that their branches and leaves overlook less of the path, and the trees on the cyclists' side being larger overlook more.
    3) The cycle lane is (I think - I didn't have my tape measure) more than half the width of the full path, so will see proportionately more leaves.
    4) The path drains to the north (the cyclists' side!).

    I also suspect that the pedestrian side sees more people than the cyclists' side sees bikes, and because pedestrians have a larger and more frequent contact patch than bicycle tyres there is probably a difference in the level of squelching or clearing of leaves.

    Posted 9 years ago #

  9. kaputnik
    Moderator

    I'm free for an hour-or so after coffee, but probably have come to this thread a bit too late. Where's Dave's bikeplow gotten to?

    Posted 9 years ago #

  10. SRD
    Moderator

    okay. let's do it. 9-10ish? i'll bring a shovel. anything else we need?

    Posted 9 years ago #

  11. jdanielp
    Member

    As a regular NMW walk cyclist I would have been up for a bit of shovelling or photos/film had I been available...

    I commented about this very issue to @CllrChasBooth on Twitter the other day when he asked about leaf clearing.

    Posted 9 years ago #

  12. chdot
    Admin

    CCE guerrilla gardening.

    Posted 9 years ago #

  13. SRD
    Moderator

    thanks to kaputnik, laid-back and wingpig for their efforts, and chdot for photography

    note the tire tread in this pic

    Posted 9 years ago #

  14. SRD
    Moderator

    @arellcat - many thanks for the site visitant diagnosis. we reflected on it as we shovelled - very helpful to have your considered judgment!

    Posted 9 years ago #

  15. neddie
    Member

    This morning, I did notice some areas where the tarmac had sunk / started to break off on the southern edge of the path...

    Poor quality job when laying the path??

    Posted 9 years ago #

  16. crowriver
    Member

    Well done, public spirited cyclists!

    Hero of Socialist Labour medal for each of you.

    Posted 9 years ago #

  17. SRD
    Moderator

    @eddie1h there is one spot where a tree came down and its roots pulled the tarmac up. i don't think we can blame the council for that. of course, they have not tried to fix it at all.

    Posted 9 years ago #

  18. neddie
    Member

    ah OK.

    PS. Looks like you did a good job there :)

    Posted 9 years ago #

  19. jdanielp
    Member

    Thank you all for your efforts. I will enjoy the cleared path to some extent this evening, but far more on Monday morning when I am heading west and close to that edge...

    Posted 9 years ago #

  20. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Well done, City Cycling Stakhanovites!

    Posted 9 years ago #

  21. SRD
    Moderator

    would be interesting to know if anyone noticed a difference before reading this thread!

    Posted 9 years ago #

  22. chdot
    Admin

    http://deceasedcanine.blogspot.co.uk/2014/11/a-solution-to-cycle-path-maintenance.html

    Posted 9 years ago #

  23. Min
    Member

    Love the fast moving shovel action in the top photo there. Heroic effort. :-)

    Posted 9 years ago #

  24. chdot
    Admin

    "Love the fast moving shovel action"

    Yeah, camera couldn't keep up!

    Posted 9 years ago #

  25. wingpig
    Member

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    Posted 9 years ago #

  26. kaputnik
    Moderator

    It was remarkably easy to make a good job of clearing the leafmush with the SRD kids' miniature broom. Not much excuse for the council not being able to do this, apart from not having miniature brooms.

    Posted 9 years ago #

  27. SRD
    Moderator

    Just got this reply from council -

    Thank you for your email of 28 November, regarding your maintenance concerns on the above path. Thank you for bringing this issue to our attention and for your efforts in clearing the path edges.

    At the time of construction, drainage channels were cut into the verge at locations where the path edge is lower. It would appear that these have since become ineffectual and are not draining the path as intended. As you point out, this has led to further build-up of debris and the verge encroaching into the path.

    I can confirm that I shall arrange for the verge levels to be reduced at the problem locations. I am in the process of sourcing a suitable contractor to undertake these works and I will keep you updated when a timescale is available.

    Posted 9 years ago #

  28. chdot
    Admin

    "

    I am in the process of sourcing a suitable contractor to undertake these works

    "

    Yeah they were doing that 7 years ago -

    https://cyclingedinburgh.wordpress.com/2007/06/20/still-waiting

    You'd think CEC didn't actually have any 'doing stuff' staff...

    Posted 9 years ago #

  29. SRD
    Moderator

    I would like to think that even 7 years ago they realised that it needed more work than just drainage channels and now that they have invested in it, they have an interest in maintaining it?

    Posted 9 years ago #

  30. SRD
    Moderator

    Did this again this morning. should have checked the thread and remembered which tools to take along.

    Posted 3 years ago #

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