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  1. SRD
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    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/cyclist-taken-to-hospital-after-being-hit-by-tram-1-3618477

    A Cyclist has been taken to hospital after being hit by a tram.

    The incident happened just after 6pm tonight at Edinburgh Park and both police and ambulance staff attended.

    It is understood the cyclist was taken to Edinburgh Royal Infirmary to be treated for injuries, and his condition is not believed to be life threatening.

    Edinburgh Park station was off-limits to trams for around an hour after the incident.

    It is believed the tram collided with the front wheel of the bike, throwing the cyclist off the saddle and onto the road.

    A spokesman for Edinburgh Trams said: “There was a collision between a tram and a cyclist at around 5.40pm this evening. Emergency services attended the scene and we are currently helping the police with their investigation.”

    Posted 9 years ago #
  2. SRD
    Moderator

    oops. perhaps i should have put that in 'sentient beings' thread...

    Posted 9 years ago #
  3. sallyhinch
    Member

    Interesting that the tram collided with the bike. Normally the stories say the bike (or cyclist) collided with the vehicle. They must really hate the trams.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  4. Snowy
    Member

    I was there, unfortunately. Didn't see the collision but saw the emergency stop of the tram. Emergency services responded quickly and in numbers. Hope the cyclist is ok.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  5. RJ
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    If the same thing I saw the aftermath of, then some distance from Edinburgh Park station - between Edinburgh Park Central tram stop and the Gyle. I think there's an unsignalled pedestrian crossing there. Warning signs to beware trams.

    Obviously hope consequences are unserious.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  6. Snowy
    Member

    Yes, that's exactly the spot. About 30 yards north of the Ritz restaurant. The trams are doing about 35mph on that bit, I reckon. And daft as it may sound, they are surprisingly stealthy when there is other traffic noise around and it's dark.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  7. Nelly
    Member

    I don't use that crossing on bike, but have used it on hundreds of occasions on foot.

    Sightlines are excellent for any person approaching the crossing from east or west. Can only presume cyclist switched off for a moment.

    Sounds like they are not badly injured, that's the main thing.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  8. Arellcat
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    Nelly, I'm not familiar with the crossing in question, but although you said the sightlines are excellent, is the individual 'made' to look right, left and right again before crossing, through design of the crossing itself, or is the individual 'just supposed to remember to look' for trams approaching from either direction? Any specific signage in place or guardrails?

    I was talking to Tulyar about the level crossing at Bankhead Drive, near Cultins Road, and was reminded of the RAIB report into an incident in Croydon in 2008, in which a cyclist was hit by a tram at a crossing and subsequently died from his injuries.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  9. Instography
    Member

    Sounds like it needs a chicane.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  10. stiltskin
    Member

    Hooray! More pointless infrastructure to protect the stupidly negligent.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  11. Nelly
    Member

    Arellcat, not really - it is actually a lot simpler than the one at Bankhead/Cultins, which I cross twice daily......pretty carefully as you don't approach straight on.

    The one at The Ritz (if it was there) is approached in a straight line giving ample time to look.

    I still think its odd that it was reported that tram hit the front wheel, so might be as simple as cyclist was a bit close to track and was clipped? I don't know, but if you are in the area, have a look. There are plenty "trams crossing" signs in the area.

    Weather dependent, I might take a detour tomorrow and look.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  12. Snowy
    Member

    It's a straight crossing where the path goes over, just north of the Ritz. There is a (small) sign facing each approach, which is the only warning you're about to cross 2 sets of tracks.
    However, I'm not convinced the signs are illuminated, although I'd need to check. It was dark when this incident happened.
    I *think* the cyclist was going eastbound, had crossed the northbound track and was clipped by the southbound tram.
    Just possibly, an unlit sign might easily be missed against the lit background of the street beyond.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  13. Tulyar
    Member

    Just to use this as a common thread on cycle-tram collisions, & related issues on level crossings of the off-street sections of tram track.

    A recent report from a passenger on a Westbound tram last week that there was a collision on the Balgreen-Saughton section between a tram and a cyclist. There are 3 crossings here, one replaced a signal controlled crossing on the busway, and is where the off-duty bus driver died, and generated the RAIB report now published.

    It also highlighted that Edinburgh Trams horn/bell specifications and tested values were not always the same, and the similar trams in Birmingham had an upgrade, which had not been notified to other operators regarding the audibility and tonal qualities of the warning horns and bell 'sounders'

    The RAIB report did not seem to have a note of the 2014 collision, despite the cyclist being taken to hospital and the line blocked - I'm looking for some more detail on this if possible. It must surely have required a RIDDOR report to HSE and ORR?

    However trying to learn more about the Stenhouse/Balgreen collision has no report for Edinburgh Trams duty log despite information that the tram stopped and the driver & cyclist seemed to exchange details, with the bike visibly damaged according the passenger on the tram.

    So this is an initial appeal for any further information.

    Other RAIB reading for this might be the fatal crash on the Croydon system at Morden Hall Park, where a Sustrans Route crossing the single track was not re-audited for the new alignment, and a cyclist rode out into the path of a tram, with indications that he was using earpieces and an ipod, thus failing to hear the warning horn, and the noise of a full emergency brake application.

    For Morden Hall Park, and for the Saughton fatality, the RAIB highlighted that the changed crossing arrangements had not been reviewed for the new operation, ensuring that the victims had to slow down and look towards approaching trams (and we know what that can lead to in bad design detail)

    At Saughton this included

    Trams replaced buses
    Traffic signals removed
    Bus speed over crossing 30 Km/h
    Tram Speeds 70 Km/h

    And notes required clearer marking of the area over and approaching the crossing.

    Coralling in the 'pedestrian' traffic to cross at the defined place - with the 'solution' proposed as knee-height timber rails either side of the path on the crossing approaches.

    (141)Edinburgh Trams has told the RAIB that on 27 February 2019 it held a hazard review, in conjunction with the City of Edinburgh Council, of its uncontrolled pedestrian crossings and generated a list of risk mitigation options. On 22 April 2019 it completed the implementation of some of the options at the crossings. This included the use of ground markings and the installation of timber ‘knee rails’ (a low fence) either side of the footpath where it intersects the tramway, in order to improve the demarcation of the crossings to pedestrians. On 3 July 2019, Edinburgh Trams informed the RAIB that both parties had agreed a delivery programme to implement additional control measures to all of its off-street pedestrian/cycle crossings.

    Anyone been consulted on this?

    Trees which restricted sighting distances have also been removed.

    Tram speeds have now been restricted, and drivers have to cross unmanaged 'foot crossings'to 40Km/h (25 mph) (as a temporary speed restriction) whilst line speed of 70Km/h (44 mph) elsewhere

    At present no chicanery seems to be proposed.

    I think the current cyclist crash was on one of the 2 'new' crossings where the trams go over the main railway lines, one of which is the connection to the old Stenhouse footbridge, and the other (with steps down to Stenhouse Drive) is the main connection for the cycle path to cross the tram tracks and then go over the flyover towards Balgreen Road. The 'Middle' crossing is 'challenging' on my 1-speed, with the uphill gradient sharp turn plus the need to check for trams in both directions on a curved section of track, with a summit cut-off on sightlines to the East, and an imperative to maintain momentum if possible, and not to cross the tarmac & poured 'rubber' infill at a risky angle. Cross referencing to railway level crossing standards there is not really a decent threshold where you can stop and look from a 'place of safety' before pushing down on the pedals to cross. I'd be interested on how other might 'experience' this as a 'crossing'

    From Stenhouse flyover

    https://live.staticflickr.com/7918/46323885745_ca59971d37_h.jpg
    (really close to flyover steps only down to Stenhouse Drive)

    https://live.staticflickr.com/7847/32296314287_0638e15329_h.jpg
    (the crossing that takes you from cycle route over to path over the flyover - severe turn with gradients ......)

    https://live.staticflickr.com/7885/46514788094_95c7d09a8a_h.jpg
    (Fatal crash site)

    https://live.staticflickr.com/7803/40273478143_cca994a986_h.jpg
    (main cycle route approaching Edinburgh Park)

    3 others to photograph in landscaped area around Edinburgh Park Central tram stop, unless others wish to contribute.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  14. Tulyar
    Member

    For clarity here are the findings of the RAIB report CCE & Spokes Planning may want to digest

    144 : Recommendations

    The following recommendations are made:

    1)The intent of this recommendation is to improve the audible warnings provided to pedestrians by trams in Edinburgh (paragraph 55).

    Edinburgh Trams Limited should:
    a) increase the audibility of its tram warning horns so that they provide effective warning of approaching trams to pedestrians, in particular at foot crossings on off-street sections of its network. The warning horns should be clearly discernible above the background noise at relevant locations and take into consideration sighting distances and line speeds; and
    b)develop, document, brief and train instructions in which situations it expects its drivers to use the horn as an audible warning.

    This recommendation may apply to other UK tram operators.

    2 The intent of this recommendation is to improve the safety of pedestrian crossings on off-street sections where trams run at relatively high speeds (paragraph 75).

    Edinburgh Trams Limited should:
    a) undertake risk assessments of all of its pedestrian crossings on off-street sections and identify any necessary control measures. The assessment should include consideration of the crossing layout, sighting d stances, line speed, tram braking distances and the audibility of the tram warning horns. Control measures for consideration should include the following safety features:
    • improved demarcation of the crossing; and
    barriers, chicanes, or similar, to turn 'pedestrians’ direction of travel, just before crossing, to face oncoming trams on the nearest track.

    3 The intent of this recommendation is to establish improved industry guidance for the audibility of warning horns and bells fitted to current and future UK trams (paragraph 85).

    The Light Rail Safety and Standards Board (LRSSB) should develop the guidance for audible warnings devices on both current and future UK trams, so that they provide effective warning of approaching trams. The guidance should define a process so that each tram operator can establish appropriate sound pressure levels and frequencies for warnings that are clearly discernible above background noise and which take into consideration sighting distances, tram braking characteristics and line speeds.

    4 The intent of this recommendation is to improve current industry guidance for pedestrian level crossings on UK tram systems, by including lessons from this accident and previous similar accidents (paragraph 75).

    The Light Rail Safety Standards Board (LRSSB) should update and
    improve the current industry guidance for the design, layout and management of off-street pedestrian level crossings on UK tram systems contained in ‘Tramway Principles and Guidance’, January 2018. The new guidance should consider lessons from this and previous similar tramway accidents. It should as a minimum include guidance on routine risk assessments of crossings, taking into account sighting distances, line speed, tram braking characteristics and the audibility of warning horns.


    145 : Learning point

    The RAIB has identified the following key learning point

    1 For those responsible for the safety verification of new tram or railway systems, this investigation highlights the importance of maintaining a robust log of safety related issues during the project and ensuring each issue is managed and assured as closed out by persons with the appropriate technical expertise (paragraph 105).

    T&C

    Those identified in the recommendations have a general and ongoing obligation to comply with health and safety legislation, and need to take these recommendations into account in ensuring the safety of their employees and
    others.

    Additionally, for the purposes of regulation 12(1) of the Railways (Accident Investigation and Reporting) Regulations 2005, these recommendations are addressed to The Office of Rail and Road (ORR) to enable it to carry out its duties under regulation 12(2) to:

    (a) ensure that recommendations are duly considered and where appropriate acted upon; and

    (b) report back to RAIB details of any implementation measures, or the reasons why no implementation measures are being taken.

    Copies of both the regulations and the accompanying guidance notes (paragraphs 200 to 203) can be found on RAIB’s website http://www.gov.uk/raib.

    Posted 4 years ago #

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