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"No way" Scotland will hit 10 per cent cycling target at current level of spend, campaigners warn
Scottish Government urged to increase investment in cycling and make its budget more transparent
No way Scotland will reach 10% cycling target
Not news to anyone here, but good that it is brought up AGAIN.
Keith Brown transport minister?
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Mr Brown accepted that to date, increased levels of cycling had not materialised, but insisted: “It is true to say that what we expected to happen has happened, in that the early investment in behavioural change needs time to work through
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Does that mean anything?
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He added: “We are still aiming for the 10 per cent by 2020, but the early work is hard work. We want to see real progress towards that shared ambition soon.”
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Wot early work??
Nice summary by road.cc, even if mainly cribbed from Spokes etc.
"Keith Brown transport minister?"
Well, he was when he gave evidence. And he still is the senior (Cabinet) minister for transport - Derek Mackay is his junior minister.
transport minister Keith Brown speaks more of a “vision” than a “target.”
A "vision"? Were hallucinogens involved?
If the Govt are serious about increasing the number of cyclists they have to tackle the serious perception that cycling is dangerous which I must admit to also agreeing with.
When folk read about court cases where drivers are hardly even punished for killing cyclists it doesn't help. In addition the police and councils do hee haw to enforce the current cycling safety structure that we do have making it an expensive waste of money
We need to tackle driver attitude towards cyclists in this country and have actual enforcement rather than empty police promises. Only then will we see cycling accidents fall as well as the dangerous perception of the activity.
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Spokes CycleCampaign (@SpokesLothian)
18/12/2014 11:34
#Traffic #policing vital - great @heraldscotland letter! @EdinCityPolice @CyclingEdin @roadshare @mikeqtoo @RoadPeace
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They might state it in the press but there is no evidence of it happening in Edinburgh :(
That is a tremendously good letter. It does a number of things that probably can't be done often enough.
* it reminds everyone of the scale of death and injury caused by road accidents through the comparison with the number of murders
* it links speeding to risk, injury and death (i.e. not harmless) and enforcement to safety (not a cash generator or 'war' on motorists)
* it identifies safety as a high priority to local concerns and policing as a response to that
* that accidents need to be actively avoided.
It seems to be about changing attitudes to what is acceptable. I saw an old drink driving advert, from 1972 I think, with the slogan "Don't have that fifth pint". FIFTH! Continual restatement and reduction of what is acceptable gets us to the point where one pint is now a worry.
And enforcement. Testing and prosecuting drunk drivers was always important and a belief that there was now a higher probability of being caught over the limit was a key factor in reducing the level of drunk driving. But I think the shift in attitudes was much more important in achieving general compliance. Being done for drink driving shifted from being tough luck to being more like a public confirmation that you have a drink problem. From an inconvenience to something shameful.
And so with speeding. The priority needs to shifting attitudes rather than enforcement. Of course, there needs to be more enforcement. People need to believe that there's a high probability of being caught but they also need to feel that being caught speeding would be shameful and at the moment it isn't.
The "don't have that fifth pint" ad was a spoof by Mitchell and Webb, according to psychology-librarian from Uni of E London.
There have been some debates about whether changes in attitude are needed before enforcement can be effective, or whether enforcement is needed to lead to change in attitude. I thought the latter was more convincing.
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