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  1. chdot
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    1975 (act was ‘73).

    Posted 8 months ago #
  2. neddie
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    Pedestrianise the High St. People can drive to it, but not through it. Those wanting to drive through can use the A1.

    Job done.

    Posted 8 months ago #
  3. gembo
    Member

    @neddie You are mental, they want to drive to the shops and park, as I stipulated. THey do not want to drive to some feckin carpark 500 metres away (e.g. both of the empty LIDL and ALDI carparks) and walk to the shops that is crazy. They want to queue up and down the highstreet in mad congestion, vainly searching for a parking space for ages like normal people.

    Posted 8 months ago #
  4. Cyclingmollie
    Member

    The air filter thing is the other side of the road in this typical photo of the High Street. Tesco has to take the blame for a lot of the traffic. It's located where the town centre station used to be before that was moved to the outskirts. The old railway line is now Olivebank Road.

    Posted 8 months ago #
  5. I were right about that saddle
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  6. steveo
    Member

    Some one has been reading my posts shame it wasn't an Edinburgh Councillor...

    Posted 8 months ago #
  7. chdot
    Admin

    From link -

    Before the buses were free, fares raised around 10% of the network’s €47m (£41.6m) annual running costs. A further 60% was funded by the versement transport, a French public transport levy on companies and public bodies with more than 11 employees, and 30% came from the local authority. Vergriete says a rise in the company transport tax has made up the fare shortfall – meaning no rise in taxes for local households.

    So it *can’t* be done in UK.

    Posted 8 months ago #
  8. Morningsider
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    43% of Scottish bus operator revenue comes from central and local government. In rural and island areas it is liable to be far higher, as some local authorities subsidise every bus that operates in their area. That doesn't take account of the fact that all bus infrastructure (shelters, bus lanes etc.) are installed and maintained at public expense.

    Details: https://www.transport.gov.scot/publication/scottish-transport-statistics-no-36-2017-edition/chapter-2-bus-and-coach-travel/

    Posted 8 months ago #
  9. crowriver
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    Aye, but 43 as opposed to 90.

    From the link:

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    In Paris the income from tickets on public transport is reported to make up half the running costs. When mayor Anne Hidalgo suggested she would look at scrapping fares, Frédéric Héran, a transport economist, said the measure “made no sense”.

    “Who will the new public transport users be?” he asked. “All studies have shown they will be cyclists, then pedestrians and very few motorists. This clearly shows it’s an anti-cycling, anti-pedestrian measure and not very discouraging to cars.”

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    There's evidence to suggest that in Tallinn, drivers are still driving their cars just as much as they were before free public transport. The main impact seems to be a reduction in people walking. So I imagine that unless you make it more difficult for people to use their cars (as they apparently have in Dunkirk) then the effect of free public transport is to transfer people from getting around on foot to getting around by bus, tram etc.

    Posted 8 months ago #
  10. chdot
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    “as they apparently have in Dunkirk”

    Well there’s your “carrot and stick”.

    ‘We’ve introduced free transport and now we are going to make it harder to drive (like cities where you can only get from one part to another via a longer route) or more expensive (congestion charge).’

    Just needs a Gov that will let it happen without a referendum!

    Posted 8 months ago #
  11. chdot
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  13. chdot
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    There's a clear link between pollution peaks and hospital admissions

    https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2018/nov/30/its-the-only-way-forward-madrid-bans-polluting-vehicles-from-city-centre

    Posted 6 months ago #
  14. chdot
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  16. chdot
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  17. chdot
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  18. chdot
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  19. chdot
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    Public health chiefs have called for cars to be banned around schools in the UK, reports say.

    Paul Cosford, the medical director of Public Health England, told the Times it should be socially unacceptable to leave a car running near school gates.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47520848

    Posted 3 months ago #
  20. Arellcat
    Moderator

    I have to say, coming in from the south this morning the air smelled terrible. I thought it was just the local farmer spreading liquid rotten eggs on the fields, which they were indeed doing, but it was that heavy, petrolly smell that hangs around in a layer on the ground.

    Posted 3 months ago #
  21. neddie
    Member

    RE: the Beeb article, they are only suggesting banning idling outside schools, not cars themselves.

    Banning idling...
    Using hedges to screen against pollution*...
    Widening roads...
    Invest more in public transport...

    As usual, completely ignoring the elephant in the room and the need to remove it.

    *WTAF. How on Earth is a hedge going to make any difference?

    Posted 3 months ago #
  22. sallyhinch
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    Actual report here, which has a fair bit about reducing traffic and increasing active travel (as opposed to whatever was in the press release before the report was published)

    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/784055/Review_of_interventions_to_improve_air_quality.pdf

    Posted 3 months ago #
  23. Rosie
    Member

    Spring Public Meeting

    CLIMATE, TRANSPORT & CYCLING

    Date:- Wednesday 20 March 2019
    Time: 7.30-9.30pm Doors open 6.45 for coffee, stalls & chat. Tea/Coffee available 6.45-7.15

    Venue:- Edinburgh University Appleton Tower 11 Crichton Street [NB – not our usual Augustine United venue]

    With increasingly powerful scientific warnings of climate breakdown, with transport now Scotland’s biggest source of climate emissions, with cycle use increasing too slowly, and with a Climate Bill going through the Scottish Parliament, our Spring public meeting will consider the relationship between climate change and transport … from trunk roads to cycling … from national politics to how we commute…

    Speakers:-
    Claudia Beamish MSP [Co-convener of Scottish Parliament cross-party group on cycling, walking and buses; Labour Environment & Climate spokesperson] … How parliament and government are (or are not) responding to the climate challenge – with special emphasis on transport and cycling

    Alex Luetchford [2050 Climate Group, Co-Chair of the Policy Sub-Group] … A young person’s perspective
    Dave Gorman [Head of Edinburgh University Department of Social Responsibility and Sustainability] … How a major local institution, Edinburgh University, is responding to the climate challenge – ranging from academic research to how staff and students travel

    Caroline Rance [Friends of the Earth Scotland, Climate Campaigner] … The Climate Bill and related actions
    followed by a one-hour audience QA/ panel discussion chaired by Elizabeth Bomberg [Professor of Environmental Politics, University of Edinburgh]

    http://www.spokes.org.uk/…/spokesmtg-20-march-climate-tran…/

    Posted 3 months ago #
  24. Rosie
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  25. chdot
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  28. chdot
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    Global, national, and urban burdens of paediatric asthma incidence attributable to ambient NO2 pollution: estimates from global datasets

    ...

    Traffic emissions should be a target for exposure-mitigation strategies. The adequacy of the WHO guideline for ambient NO2 concentrations might need to be revisited.

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanplh/article/PIIS2542-5196(19)30046-4/fulltext

    Posted 2 months ago #
  29. chdot
    Admin

    Cllr Demirci hit back, saying: “We’ve got to be brave in getting more people out of their cars. That means making our borough even better for walking and cycling with proposals like these. No scheme is perfect, and limited money means we can’t do everything we want to at once, but I want to reassure residents we are fighting to transform our borough by reducing car use, improving walking and cycling conditions, tackling air pollution and lobbying to make our borough a place for people, not cars.”

    https://www.hackneygazette.co.uk/news/air-quality-report-can-t-convince-stoke-newington-parents-1-5986721

    Posted 2 months ago #
  30. Stickman
    Member

    Conservative MSP Maurice Golden has posted this:

    https://twitter.com/mgoldenmsp/status/1117106709774905345?s=21

    “Gimmicks won’t improve air quality around schools - we need real action. @ScotTories want to see air quality monitors, traffic enforcement and safe cycle routes at every school in Scotland.”

    Posted 2 months ago #

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