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https://twitter.com/hank_chief/status/1117433323670908928?s=19
"This is great news. It'd be even greater news if it came with a costed timeframe @mgoldenmsp?
@CllrNickCook can you confirm this is @EdinburghTories policy?
Do you have the safe routes already planned or should we feed them in for our local Tory Cllr to champion?"
Do get in touch with your local Conservative Councillor with your suggestion for a safe cycle route to your kids school and ask them to champion it...
...safe cycle routes at every school in Scotland...
Until they realise that a route isn't at somewhere this will remain a meaningless gimmick. Routes go to somewhere and if that is somewhere everyone goes then the routes have to come from everywhere.
It may be a single word but it makes a huge difference.
It may be a single word but it makes a huge difference
Agreed. I spotted that too.
According to his statement, the "safe routes" could be entirely within the school grounds!
To be fair, in his video he does say “to”.
Although I would say an air quality monitor on its own at a school is just a gimmick.
Until we see some details behind this then I’m very sceptical of their commitment on this.
@Stickman, I suspect any tweet which starts "Gimmicks won't..." is likley to be a gimmick. It's the equivalent of "I'm not racist but...".
Now if they air quality monitors were linked to bollards on all nearby roads which were raised whenever the air quality was below standard that would be progress.
Hmm. Apparently I need to vote Tory in 2021 if I want to find out any details behind their plan...
https://twitter.com/hank_chief/status/1118074147798769664?s=19
Hmmm - I would be more convinced of Tory concern for air quality if they weren't opposed to the workplace parking levy, Sunday parking controls, making progress on the east-west cycle route, monthly open street events, the city centre transformation and city/country-wide 20mph speed limits while supporting the abolition of Air Passenger Duty and more road building.
Actions speaking louder than words, and all that.
@morningsider. True, although gimmick did speak rather loudly in their tweet.
@chdot - Can you post the full text?
Actually no.
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Lewisham campaigners block three roads into city centre to highlight ‘air pollution crisis’
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The UK must address what’s coming out of our farms as well as our exhaust pipes,” said Kate Nield, clean air lawyer at Client Earth, which has successfully taken ministers to court over air pollution.
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https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/jun/18/ammonia-pollution-damaging-uk-land-report
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According to the environmental group Ecologists in Action, Madrid Central has already brought about record reductions in nitrogen dioxide levels in the city centre, with pollution from the gas 48% lower in April 2019 than during the same month last year. Nitrogen dioxide levels across the city, meanwhile, are down by 16%.
The group’s coordinator, Paco Segura, said that scrapping the scheme in a region where contaminated air causes aabout 3,000 premature deaths a year was “absolutely immoral”.
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i cycle 25 miles a day and suffer mild pericarditis inflammation from time to time, primarily after multi-day rainy spells
anyone else in that boat? i'm thinking rapid absorbtion of rain molecules holding pollution / pollens etc ?
"The limit on nitrogen dioxide emissions that should have been met was set by the European Union. This target limit for tiny particles known as PM10s is a Scottish statutory standard that was supposed to have been met by the end of 2010."
It's great that the Lib Dem MEP is highlighting this issue. However, remind me who was in the governing coalition of City of Edinburgh Council back then? Couldn't have been the Lib Dems could it?
Cole Hamilton is notably missing from that picture having recently voted to maintain the national speed limit for urban areas somewhere in the death zone.
Random thought...
Is there anyway in converting a tank if fuel (I.e. diesel) into a volume of pollution?
I put fuel into the car but I can't mentally quantify what 50litres looks like and then having driven a couple of hundred miles, I have to repeat the process.
I was thinking of what a thought producing equivalent would be...
A cloud of gas Xm3 at the legal limit of 40NOx
So to answer my own question...
The Euro6 Diesel limit is 80mg/km for NOx
So that is equivalent to 80ug per metre travelled
That mean that it would convert 2 cubic metres of air from zero NOx to the legal limit of 40ug / m3.
A guess what a car is 2metres wide.
So every vehicle worse than the Euro 6 (& many that are 'officially' complainant) will be converting the air equivalent to the width of the car from the ground up to 1m high polluted by NOx to the legal limit.
Shocking!
(Yes I know it gets dissipated by the wind and passing vehicles etc. but still)
(Yes I know it gets dissipated by the wind and passing vehicles etc. but still)
The 2 meters at the legal limit is arbitrary, why not 1 meter at twice-) or a dirty half meter or an awful cm squared.
Not every car that is not euro 6 complaint will produce this much NOx many quite possibly most may not.
Some Petrol cars from the 90s could produce less
Ed1 - you are right about 2m3 being arbitrary.
I trying to think of it in the terms of Roseburn, where those opposed are trying to argue the bike scheme will increase pollution to illegal levels.
So my counter would be that it wouldn't take many cars with more than the 80mg/km (Euro 6 NOx limit) of pollution to fill the entire space with illegal pollution...
...and they will be doing that on the entire length of their journey so arguing against Roseburn's cycle lane is just going to leave us more pollution at other locations.
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