@Laidback: I personally don't see banning all bicycles at Haymarket rails, and only allowing ICE recumbents, as a solution; unless all recumbents had Fat Apple maxxed out width Swchalbes fitted, and then you would have to stock bespoke mudguard kits to fit as well! (Laidback has some commercial motive here?) I await the stock of max width studded ones being available, for the Alpine weather we are expecting courtesy of NY State across the Pond! Did the tram resilience people pre-test the rails for a metre of pooder snaar lying on top?
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"Tram fall cyclists to sue ‘negligent’ council"
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"Did the tram resilience people pre-test"...
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The NOto20 campaign have the right answer! If you drive over the rails at a shallow angle whilst doing 30mph you might just get away with it! Vote NOto20, and join the big protest march on 21st February with 1,000s of other Luddite motorists on foot wasting their Saturday!
You no it makes no sense!Posted 10 years ago # -
@chdot: Don't be silly! U no the answer would be NO!
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I'm sure you're right (sadly).
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For anyone with the stomach for the show, the Top Gear that went out on Sunday has a good demonstration by Richard Hammond ("they call him the Hamster even though he is not a hamster" Stewart Lee) of how to fall off at tram lines by approaching at too slight an angle. He went all the way to St Petersberg for this, apparently.
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What's been happening with all the observations of westbound cyclists to see how they grant permission to the tram tracks to fling them off their bikes and under the wheels a nearby bus? I was hoping for some findings.
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@Instography
I asked you this previously and I have not seen your response. I now seem to have your permission to post.
"I have, of course, reviewed both this thread and all of your posts."
Not sure if you are serious ? Are you ? What were your criteria ? Did I pass ?
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That's just a weird thing to say. It's not like I suggested that you couldn't or shouldn't post. I can neither grant nor deny permission to post, as I'm sure you know very well.
You mean like a Cochrane Review? No I didn't undertake a systematic review. Jeez, who has time for that? I just had a look at your previous contributions to see what kind of topics you post on and whether the contributions here were characteristic.
So there is no pass or fail, but I'll just note that you haven't yet explained what it is you hope to do with all the details of tram-related incidents you seek from people, which I continue to find suspicious particularly since your starting position is that the cyclists themselves are responsible.
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Over six years ago now, but chdot has the BBC stuff with me and Dave:
Though is Dangerous still about?
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Blimey that bus in the opening sequence is close.
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The later van isn't much better.
I'd forgotten how bad the first attempt at laying them was.
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I think you'll find the cyclists are too close to the bus and the van who were just going about their business.
That BBC headline "Edinburgh tram lines throw cyclists off track" couldn't be more wrong. The tracks are the innocent party here. Horribly put upon by vindictive, incompetent cyclists. The tram tracks are like crocodiles - lying around, only being dangerous if you allow them to be.
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@chdot The vid you were asking about a week ago was me, but I'm avoiding letting press/TV use it as the trolling and threats just aren't worth it. Also they could use it under creative commons licence without asking me anyway, just that they like to generate their own web traffic by copying and re-posting. For the record I am still getting treatment for a shoulder injury from my wee surf and I am not one of the 60 seeking compensation. I think if people want the council to compensate them it would be worthwhile not using 'ambulance chasing' lawyers.
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Georgie Keate (@georgiekeate)
28/05/2015 12:00
Hi @CyclingEdin, could you retweet - looking for cyclists in Edinburgh who have had accidents on the city's tram lines."
https://twitter.com/georgiekeate/status/603878629232246785
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Reporter for The Times in Scotland. *All I think about are metaphors and cats* TS. Email: georgie.keate@thetimes.co.uk.
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Anyone available to speak to that Kay show on BBC radio scotland at 9am for a cyclists perspective on the trams?
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Did the airwaves feel the wrath of CCEers?
Coincidentally enough, at 9am I was in the traffic that was queued up at the foot of Morrison St because a bunch of coaches and buses had jammed the junction to Haymarket station. I'd been all set to safely rumble over the tracks, but after a second green light for Dalry and us going nowhere I decided I'd be quicker going that way instead.
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The colleague who occasionally passes comment on other cyclists' behaviour popped over to mention this news story yesterday, so there's now at least one local motorist out there who knows that the rails are not well-installed or accompanied by spring-loaded grippy panels and that motor vehicles can experience mishaps on them, too.
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Iain Taylor (@iwt_act)
28/05/2015 22:23
Never had trouble cycling on tram tracks in 1950s Edinburgh.We're now dealing with a "blame & claim"generation.Wimps!http://pic.twitter.com/VqdWKBbX1k
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A comment oft-heard. I thought my dad was going to start off on one of those a few weeks back till he declared (after asking about the trams in Edinburgh) that people used to fall off constantly on the tracks in Newcastle.
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"The simple fact is, with the exception of cyclists, cyclists are detested by everyone. Bus drivers, train conductors, motorists, pedestrians, lorry drivers, the lot. They really are a pain to everyone in the way in which they pursue their hobby and in a way that causes maximum inconvenience to everyone else."
The EEN commenters views on cyclists nicely summarised in the very first comment I saw on that article. I didn't read any further.
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And a neat summary of the 'out grouping'. Cycling is a 'hobby'. Not a mode of transport or a gym substitute or a sport, but a 'hobby'. Does that mean that for everyone commuting to work in a car, that motorised transport is a 'hobby'?
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Really Irritatingly [Un]Intelligent Chauvinist is a troll.
He talks about cyclists 'playing' on their bikes and how it is a 'hobby'. This is just a lure to get you to react.
Best not to react. Indifference is the opposite of love.
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Oh I'm well aware of him. Years back I used to engage, then realised life was waaaaaaaay to short.
I do think a lot of people do still see bikes as a toy though.
I was speaking to a Dutch friend the other day, whose other half was a councillor in Amsterdam and heavily involved in promotion of cycling. They spent the last couple of years in Santa Barbara, where he got involved in a cycling advocacy group, and the main comment they came across was, "Why do you want to ride a bike? Are you 6?".
Though sounds like they started to have some real success (before they moved back to the 'dam a month or two back).
There was one idea they used in SB that I must look into for here.
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@WC - There was one idea they used in SB that I must look into for here.
Don't tease us... do tell!
Robert
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"Don't tease us... do tell!"
It was a really simple thing that combatted the perception that only 'enthusiasts' wanted better cycling provision. So they set up a photobooth, the idea being that people could write things on supplied blank placards, and take their picture with their request. The only stipulation was they had to be positive, "More bike lanes please" rather than "There are too many cars". So they got families and commuters and racers and just everyone on the broad spectrum of cycling.
They then took all of the pictures and produced a book of them, then sent a copy to all the local representatives (whatever their version of councillors and MPs is). Beautifully simple.
Very PoP-esque in a way.
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That is a very nice advocacy idea indeed!
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We were actually thinking of doing something similar for 'We Walk, We Cycle, We Vote' - get people to photograph themselves in various places around Scotland (i.e. visibly not just in the Central belt) with signs saying 'I vote for ...' and then whatever they want.
If any of you want to join in that would be brilliant, and hopefully it will all feed into POP next year as well (we could maybe mount a little exhibition??
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