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Millions of pounds are set to be ploughed in as the firm bids to turn the tiny fishing village into a magnet for cruise giants including Cunard, P&O and Royal Caribbean.
Plans for dredging, seabed surveys and reviews of local infrastructure are all well advanced as part of a “significant” investment in the project, company officials have confirmed.
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Who owns Granton Harbour? I thought they were looking at creating a new cruise line terminal.
Seems Forth Ports are spouting a new terminal every month in a different location.
I note they're saying Newhaven will require more facilities, shops, travel connections etc. And where would they actually go?
"Who owns Granton Harbour?"
Good question.
'Natural assumption' that it would be "The Council", but no doubt all/key bits will be Forth Ports.
Wonder how much The Tram figures in all this.
Sounds like a load of hot air considering there's already a "cruise terminal" building owned by Forth Ports just outside the Ocean (sic) Terminal shopping mausoleum.
Newhaven has emerged as the prime candidate for a cruise liner port, with experts stressing that the lock entrance at Leith, Rosyth’s proximity to the Forth bridges and South Queensferry’s distance from the city centre meant they were not suitable for accommodating the next generation of cruise liner.
Under new proposals, ships would anchor around 1.5 miles offshore, with passengers brought to Newhaven Harbour on tender vessels.
So it's not a cruise liner port at all, it's a tender facility and no cruise liners will be within spitting distance of the shore. As is current practice those too big to get through the locks into Leith Docks will anchor somewhere offshore and offload their tourists via tender.
Tourism experts today said quality shops, restaurants and transport connections would all have to be provided as part of any viable port plan, potentially adding millions to the £6.5m thought to have been generated across the city’s ports last year.
Welcome to Edinburgh. Enter (and exit) through the gift shop. Much like the museum. And the zoo. And the castle.
Though adding a decent public transport from the tender vehicles wouldn't be a bad thing. Having watched one being offloaded in the Forth to St. Queensferry the passengers were hanging around for ages while the attendant coaches were filled.
Newhaven Harbour is lovely, old and traditional. Do we really want to see this sort of change, even if it is 'merely' the addition of gift shops and a better bus stop. More traffic around there will spoil the area and make for many problems.
If the Ocean Terminal terminal is not accessible enough to the newer BIG cruise liners (does anyone even actually want to go on a cruise on such a vessel) why not make a smaller facility there for the ship to shore tenders? the fun of coming through the Leith Docks lock would just add to the passengers experience.
Newhaven Harbour is lovely, old and traditional
Have you seen it recently? Now has a floating dock in it.
Forth Ports should just build a bigger lock system for Leith docks or remove them altogether. Not much stuff offloads in Leith anymore - mainly a base for offshore support vessels. They can ride the tide.
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yep. you are right. But while the floating pontoons just cater for private yachts etc the harbour itself retains character. This would not be the case if some sort of welcome centre and visitor centre was installed to 'manage' folks coming ashore from massive cruise liners.
I do think the leith docks lock is an issue and could be sorted.
adding a decent public transport from the tender vehicles wouldn't be a bad thing
That's not how the scam works though... private hire coaches are provided by the cruise liner outfit, the tourists are paying £15 a head to get to Edinburgh and back. They park up at Johnston Terrace.
The feedback from South Queensferry shops and residents is that they suffer when a big ship is in port. Main car park closed for the busses that whisk tourists off to Edinburgh. Very little money spent in the village by tourists, and tourists trying to visit the village have no where to park. A lose - lose situation.
Whatever the PR hype, such schemes are rarely done 'for the benefit of the locals'!
Like most developments really.
Just a pity the extent to which 'the system' operates on a 'presumption for development' basis.
Granton also has a perfectly usable harbour, without lock gates, and far larger than the one at Newhaven, and with much less historic/conservation merit to disturb.
All it needs is a tram stop coach park.
In the absence of any links to actual plans, will this definitely involve bringing tenders into the wee walled harbour by the lighthouse and fishtaurants with limited parking or is it more likely to involve the site to the east of Chancelot Mills, which already supports smallish ferries and has what I've always assumed to be coach parking? Maybe that bit's not a coach park, just a place where sleepy flour-hauliers can park up and sleep.
involve the site to the east of Chancelot Mills, which already supports smallish ferries
You mean Forth Ports cruise line terminal building? (Well, it was built as that but it's used so infrequently I think they have other tenants in most of it) If you pan the link Wingpig sent slightly to the left, this is what you get. QED.
Quite a few of the smaller cruise liners that do the Baltic and Scottish Islands runs often pitch up here. The thing about spending heaps of money on facilities for the super-liners is that they will call so infrequently. Even a smaller liner with 1/2 or 1/4 of the passengers can more than make up for this by simply visiting more regularly.
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