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I really hate this...
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Posted 10 years ago #
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good grief. where?
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Most of Sr's previous posts have been about Pencaitland Path.
Wherever, I wonder if it's legal.
Wide enough for all wheelchairs?
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is that the entrance to the Pencaitland railway path?
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@chdot - beat me to it…
I believe that child trailer such as the chariot and EBC double ones are supposed to be the same width as a wheelchair (I'm not sure what the "standard" is) - so this and the ones in Dalkeith that I have previously posted definitely don't pass this test
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To enable people in wheelchairs to have easy access to homes and public places, there should be special facilities, and the door width for wheelchair access is especially important. It should be wide enough to provide enough room for wheelchairs to pass through doors without difficulty.
It is known that most modern wheelchairs are 24 inches to 27 inches wide from one wheel to the other wheel. To enable wheelchairs to move freely through doors, the door width for wheelchair access should be not less than 32 inches / 813mm. If the doorway provides entry into a hallway, and wheelchairs need to be turned in order to pass through it, then the door width for wheelchair access should be not less than 36 inches.
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http://www.theaccessibleplanet.com/leisure/activities/door-width-for-wheelchair-access.html
Those handlebars will be about 24".
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I believe the guidance is 1.5m to allow accessible cycles to pass through barriers, but stop the narrowest cars (Smart Car).
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The last time I rode the Pencaitland path (last December) the Ratty Nineties Hybrid went through the anti-motorbike barrier just fine.
An actual motorcycle with three people aboard just bunny-hopped over the adjacent railing. Quite nice bike control in fact, and they gave me a cheery wave.
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Similarly elsewhere recently: non-standard bicycles need not apply:
Culloden facilities by wingpig, on FlickrI assume this is like this to warn all wheelchair/buggy/trailer users that there are further incompatibilities amongst the hillside paths beyond...
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It might be the one in the distance in this photo, by the information board:
Pencaitland Railway Path by Cycling Mollie, on Flickr
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I've gone through similar on the same path, bars went through fine. My shoulders however... ouch!
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(Love those pictures winpig! I feel sorry for that poor buggy.)
Yeah I dropped this just as I was finishing lunch so sorry for the lack of clarification.
It's not the Pencaitland Path - I can get through all those gates (with the occasional clank). This is a relatively new gate to the North near Elphinstone (maybe I should mark these OT?).. part of a track they've partially resurfaced.
Makes me a bit pessimistic about the new infrastructure the ELC is talking about if they're going to block them all up like this.
I sent a jokey tweet to ELC about it expecting them to say something like "Doh! We'll sort that out.." ...but apparently it's working as designed!
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"@DaveOsborne Barriers are designed so that cyclists can lift bikes over. Motorbikes were ruining the surface previously, this put stop to it"
Oh my word, there is SO much wrong with that statement.
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That's exactly the same sort of barrier on the cyclescape link chdot... but the one being flagged in cyclescape is actually about 3-4 inches wider than the one in this thread... and that's still too narrow.
I'll mark this one when cyclescape sends me my activation link.
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(The cyclescape one is the one in CyclingMollie's photo)
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@wingpig
OT, But CityMini- Baby jogger? Mini and Micropaddy both have been on all sorts of terrain on one of those. Great pushchairs...
Posted 10 years ago # -
Yip. How many times has your front
wheelcaster fallen off?Posted 10 years ago # -
Twice, but they do a replacement service. At cost + 2 new wheels we're still well under the entry level for all the other equivalents.
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Update for the record.. Here's the gate above compared to Pencaitland Railway Path entrance...
Looks like one is set far too deep to me?Posted 10 years ago # -
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Trying to make one path suitable for everyone might be difficult to achieve, the main point to consider is how to allow as many different activities to take place safely. This section will help you decide how to provide multi-use paths.
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http://www.pathsforall.org.uk/pfa/creating-paths/multi-use-a-accessibility.html
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That's a very good and sensible document. I've been impressed with the contact I've had with Paths 4 All, too. They've helped a local village resident make the contacts she needs to hopefully get a core path upgraded so her kids won't need to cycle on a nasty busy road. Someone came all the way down to meet her, walked the route, found the info she needed to talk knowledgeably to local landowners and the community council, and put her in touch with the council access officer who then sprang into action. Colour me impressed (although I'll reserve final judgement until the path actually opens...)
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Paths for All has a link to an updated version of the old BT Countryside for All guidelines and it's now a free download.
Posted 10 years ago # -
@schemie
I think the way through for you is to do a 'stoppie' just as you approach the gate. This will lower the height of your handlebars just enough to pass through. Of course you will need to maintain an exact line, and maintain the 'stoppie' for the duration of the gate.
Should be easy, right. :-)
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I performed a stoppie of a more unplanned nature since I kind of assumed I'd get through the barrier and didn't slow down as much as I needed to (i.e. didn't completely stop)
Posted 10 years ago # -
I just had confirmation that this particular barrier has been installed incorrectly... that's something at least!
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