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NEPN - Mud Track

(26 posts)

  1. nevelbell
    Member

    The NEPN is a mud bath at the moment, especially from the Red Bridge down to Leith and I'm looking to see if the council will run a road cleaner/machine down it - does anyone have a contact/email address at the council I can use to try an organise this?

    Posted 9 years ago #
  2. Nelly
    Member

    Try the local council team on twitter - @north_team

    Posted 9 years ago #
  3. SRD
    Moderator

    I got south team to finally deal with NMW yesterday. not perfect, but better.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  4. Luath
    Member

    +1 for twitter. @citycentreleith responded to my request to clear route 75 where it joins Water of Leith Walkway a few months ago.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  5. HankChief
    Member

    It turns out that the mud on the Pinkhill Railway is caused by CEC vans going to empty the bins.

    They don't bother to unlock the chicane gates at Balgreen/Jenners Depository and instead take the convoluted route round the back of the Golf club, which involves a tight corner which they can't make staying on the tarmac so rip up the verge.

    https://twitter.com/edd1e_h/status/568341405078323201?s=09

    Posted 9 years ago #
  6. chdot
    Admin

    Ah yes litter picking/collection -

    CEC needs some of these -

    http://8freight.com/case-studies

    Posted 9 years ago #
  7. chdot
    Admin

    Also (NEPN) places where it's hard for large vehicles to stay on tarmac -

    Posted 9 years ago #
  8. kaputnik
    Moderator

    I had noticed the tyre tracks on the verges of Pinkhill path, and had noticed it was a vehicle with double tyres on the rear axle therefore fairly heavy.

    I really don't think the cooncil Transit van is the most sensible way to navigate and maintain cycle paths. If they refuse to use foot or pedal power to get around, or the FLEET OF MINI TRACTORS, they should invest in a small number of suitably small maintenance vehicles - I think they are made by an Itallian company called Piaggio and look a bit like overgrown Reliants. Available in 3 or 4 wheeled models. It would certainly save on running costs as apparently driving road vehicles at speeds under 20mph is the most inefficient way to get around (according to the Chipwrapper at least). Would also save them the costs of cleaning up after the Transit van demolishes the verges of the path and covers everything in muck.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  9. SRD
    Moderator

    Maybe cycle forum members on here could take this up?

    Posted 9 years ago #
  10. chdot
    Admin

    I wonder if this is mostly because of heavy vehicles.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  11. nevelbell
    Member

    I have tweeted @citycentreleith and will await a response.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  12. nevelbell
    Member

    Cool - the council tweeted back to say it'll get done.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  13. neddie
    Member

    It turns out that the mud on the Pinkhill Railway is caused by CEC vans going to empty the bins

    Not only do these vans deposit mud at the Glendevon/golf club entrance, they also cut across the grass when turning sharply from the path next to the tram tracks to the Pinkhill path itself, here: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@55.9380876,-3.2532015,21z

    I've noticed the blue directions sign is often twisted round near there too. Could it be the vehicles are knocking into it?

    Posted 9 years ago #
  14. The Boy
    Member

    Ahhh. I passed someone the other day at the junction who seemed to be messing with the blue signs. Was wondering what they were up to.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  15. HankChief
    Member

    @srd Maybe cycle forum members on here could take this up?

    Next cycle form not till June...

    I've written to Adam McVey in the meantime.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  16. HankChief
    Member

    @The Boy - I noticed those signs have been out of alignment a couple of times. No idea whether it was caused by vehicle or wind though.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  17. HankChief
    Member

    More examples on the Pinkhill Railway


    Pinkhill verge damage by HankChief, on Flickr

    More here https://twitter.com/trapprain/status/568401118260277248?s=09

    Posted 9 years ago #
  18. acsimpson
    Member

    Although they aren't shared use, the paths around East Craigs are exactly the same. It looks in places like the drivers of these vehicles make no effort whatsoever to stay on the tarmac round bends.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  19. HankChief
    Member

    Had a quick response from Adam. They will look to include appropriate off road driving into driver training (which will also include driving near cyclists).

    Posted 9 years ago #
  20. chdot
    Admin

    "which will also include driving near cyclists"

    Thought CEC was already supposed to be doing that?

    Posted 9 years ago #
  21. HankChief
    Member

    I may have paraphrased that bit badly.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  22. chdot
    Admin

    "I may have paraphrased that bit badly."

    Perhaps, but I don!t know if any training is happening.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  23. SRD
    Moderator

    Problem is the vehicles, not the drivers.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  24. acsimpson
    Member

    SRD, indeed. If the vehicles were narrow enough to stay on the roads then the verges wouldn't be trashed.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  25. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Two cooncil workies were at the bit of the Pinkhill Path today. Of course they had arrived by a Transit van (which was therefore blocking the path).

    One had a long-handled lopper and was removing side branches from the overhanging canopy. The other had a big strimmer and was merrily strimming twigs, thorns, briars and branch debris all over the path. I hope they had a stiff broom in the van otherwise all they've achieved is adding more hazards to the path.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  26. neddie
    Member

    The Pinkhill 'verge damage' posted by HankChief actually shows tyre tracks that are on the tarmac of the path.

    It's just that the path maintenance is so bad that layer upon layer of leaf litter has created mud on top of the tarmac.

    They never bother to clear the leaves off this path after autumn - always leaving them to get frozen / mulched / mud-i-fied, in the hope that a few pedestrians and bicycles will somehow magically waft them away as they pass...

    Posted 9 years ago #

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