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"Council panned over bins, dog mess, and dirty streets"

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  1. chdot
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    Satisfaction with the way the council deals with dog fouling, keeps city streets clean and collects bins and recycling has collapsed, a major new survey reveals.

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    http://m.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/council-panned-over-bins-dog-mess-and-dirty-streets-1-3720606

    Posted 9 years ago #
  2. Nelly
    Member

    Bins is one I do agree with.

    We generally dont have a problem with our household bin / recycling collections.....occasionally it is late, but gets collected.

    But the large on street wheelie bins????? Many of them around the town are overflowing and must be a health hazard - around the meadows it seems they wait until they are overflowing then send a big truck round (ruining the grass) and pick them all up at once.

    I can only assume that the council tax freeze and coucil debts are biting hard.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  3. PS
    Member

    Commercial waste and big wheelie bins seems to be something the council really struggles with. I don't know if this is common to British cities and we just notice it more here because we are familiar with Edinburgh?

    One thing you do see more on the continent is number and frequency of street cleaning teams (Paris being one example) who tidy up after all the bags have been removed leaving spills and detritus on the pavement. Obviously, these things cost money, but strikes me as a good use of a hotel room / tourist tax. When the hotels throw their hands up in horror, they should have a look at Berlin which has imposed a 5% tax and people just accept it.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  4. wingpig
    Member

    Remember the Rapid Response bin-wagons? They'd turn up within minutes to address an overflowing litter bin, hoicking out the bag and replacing it, but completely ignoring anything lying on the floor around the bin, including stuff they'd dropped during their hoicking.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  5. kaputnik
    Moderator

    My experience of communal bins overflowing is that it's usually lazy neighbours to blame, who would sooner either cram it in a full bin (or even leave their bag at the side), than go to the next bin across the street or even sometimes put the rubbish in the other side of the bin (it generally piles higher on the pavement side than road side). These are the same sort of people who can't be bothered to take their bottles to the recycling point, so leave them in a bag next to the general recycling bin in the hope that someone else will do it for them.

    The bins were probably never put in for reasons of where they could expected to receive a fairly even distribution of waste being put into them, rather they were put where seemed evenly distributed on a map and where there was space.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  6. Min
    Member

    I have noticed there has been a hell of a lot more dog mess about recently. Of course, this is due to the owners who don't bother to pick up after their dogs but it still needs clearing up.

    A shame the SNP are such a bunch of tax dodgers. This freeze has been going on forever.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  7. PS
    Member

    I have noticed there has been a hell of a lot more dog mess about recently.

    I've noticed this around Broughton Street/London Street. Judging by frequency, I suspect it is just one owner failing to pick up, but if it doesn't rain for a few days then it all starts to add up.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  8. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Bothwell Street is like a dog toilet. It's quite possibly the work of just 1 or 2 lazy owners, although I've heard that not all of it may be dog.

    I'd sooner pay extra council tax to cover wardens who identify, enforce and prosecute offenders rather than for some poor council worker to have to clear it up.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  9. Min
    Member

    It's quite possibly the work of just 1 or 2 lazy owners, although I've heard that not all of it may be dog.

    Eww!

    MacDonald Road was very bad yesterday.

    Agree it is probably just 1 or 2 people in each case making a disproportionate mess.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  10. Nelly
    Member

    I foolishly used the canal towpath a week or so back and there was one stretch in Wester Hailes where it was clear that the owner utilised one stretch of grass betwixt path and water as his dog toilet. Reason I could tell it was the same owner (perhaps multiple dogs?) was that the........resultant mounds........were all the same orangey colour.

    yuk

    Posted 9 years ago #
  11. gembo
    Member

    We need a manual out in Balerno for the bins. The landfill bin is to become the recycling bin, the new landfill bin is dark Gray and takes two bin bags only. So one a week, probably OK, the food waste recycling bin can take a variety of bags. One of the recycling boxes is redundant and the other has a sticker. My neighbour's bin had a sticker put on it saying recycling bin but they had run out by my house. However, I think the refuse collection works well out in the sticks.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  12. fimm
    Member

    There were two different piles of dog mess right in the entrance to our tenement. I decided that I was going to end up standing in it if it stayed there, so went down with plastic bags and shifted it (not quite as bad a job as I expected - after all responsible dog owners do manage to do this all the time).

    I understand that some "dog mess" may actually be fox - and unfortnately foxes can't be trained to not go in the middle of the pavement and don't have owners to clean up after them!

    Posted 9 years ago #
  13. kaputnik
    Moderator

    I understand that some "dog mess" may actually be fox

    I'd say you're far more likely to get a fox scat that looks like a cat poo, rather than a dog turd. Most of the structure and appearance of a dog poo is a function of their processed, domestic diet.

    (These are all the correct biological names for each respective animal's toiletings)/

    Posted 9 years ago #
  14. Min
    Member

    Yes, fox is pretty distinctive but if it has been trodden in it might be harder to tell!

    Posted 9 years ago #
  15. PS
    Member

    @K I thought the correct biological name was "dog egg" (c)Viz, circa 1990.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  16. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Total number of fines issued for dog fouling over the last 12 months:

    Edinburgh: 68

    Glasgow: 1883

    Total number of wardens in Edinburgh: around 35

    Total number of wardens in Glasgow: 70, including a city centre response team and a group of eight plain-clothes officers dedicated to cracking down on dog walkers who fail to clean up after their pets.

    Source - http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/streets-get-dirtier-as-wardens-fail-to-fine-culprits-1-3755272?WT.mc_id=Outbrain_text&obref=obinsite

    Posted 9 years ago #
  17. gembo
    Member

    If you link this to the other thread about the media being negative towards the council I could see a completely different headline. Along the lines of Council panned for over zealous issuing of fines for dog fouling?

    The bus lane fines being a case in point.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  18. chdot
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  19. wingpig
    Member

    On this sort of subject, watch out around the Sandport end of the Water of Leith path - biological hazard implementation teams were out in force on Sunday and Monday, seemingly stamping around in their produce afterwards to spread it around a bit.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  20. They were out at the end of last week too, @wingpig. I once again marvelled at the size of the things (and the area which can be covered when it's flattened and spread around) and wondered what kind of massive monster hell-hound lays such eggs?

    That stretch is always carpet-bombed by the rear ends of our canine chums, and in summer it absolutely reeks once they mess gets warmed up by the sun.

    Many complaints have been made about that area to the council and environmental wardens over the years, and nothing ever happens.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  21. It was far, FAR worse yesterday. It appears that there's one giant hell-hound responsible, given the consistent size, texture and colour of the growing number of jumbo-jobbies left intact or smeared across vast areas.

    I've tweeted CEC, but don't hold out any hope of clearance or warden patrols.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  22. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Are you sure it's a dog?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  23. Baldcyclist
    Member

    Fair to say I don't know lots of Edinburgh, but cycling up and down the cycle paths in and out, one thing I never notice is bins for dog mess.
    We have them all over the place in Fife, and while it's fair to say they don't completely sort the issue, the bins are well used, and there is less muck.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  24. wingpig
    Member

    Someone regularly leaves/disposes of a bin bag hanging on a tree near the Warriston Road gap-in-the-wall on the WoL path. There's sometimes another near the spur to the Quiltings, though people using this one have worse aim. I think there were once a couple of dedicated dogbins near the Innocent where it goes through Bingham but couldn't tell you if they were still there.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  25. chdot
    Admin

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    The number of city streets classed as clean has fallen to its lowest level in the past 18 months.

    A litter survey found 92 per cent of city streets passed the cleanliness test in September – compared with 98 per cent of streets in March last year.

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    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/official-study-reveals-city-s-dirtiest-streets-1-4286699

    Posted 7 years ago #

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