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An abandoned market that has lain derelict for 14 years will finally be redeveloped, with diggers set to move on to the site by the end of the month.
The former fruit market on Chesser Avenue will be turned into new housing and shops in a £38m project that will create a major new retail park for the west of Edinburgh.
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I had kinda assumed this would all be housing.
At least it has a cycle path at one end and - no doubt - this will extend through the site and on to the WoL Walkway...
Spokes was lobbying hard to make sure it was integrated into/developed the bike paths.
I never thought they'd get round to this!
"Spokes was lobbying hard"
Ever reliable on planning matters (unlike Planning Dept/Cmmtt).
The sign which is a couple of years old suggests there will be some sort of Marks and Spencer's?
Have not seen plans, but I wonder if car access will extend to Hutchison crossway where it is currently blocked off? Might make it a bit of a rat run. Would be useful if it is cycle/led only at that end.
@nelly hopefully it will be like it was before the fruit market was knocked down. You could access and leave the site north of the bike path at the saughton park end and you cN go north and south at the Asda end. But again with hope they will not let cars go north south up towards the a70 and leave the cut through for bikes
Before this site was the fruit market, it was the railway sidings for the New Markets (cattle market), with a cattle road running under Chesser Avenue to the market building where the Corn Exchange is. The railway ran down the current cycle path, joining the "sub" at a north-facing junction near Gorgie Road.
It would be convenient if that route under Chesser Avenue was still there, for connecting WoL to the bit of current cycle path to Gorgie / Dalry.
@kaputnik thanks for that bit of the jigsaw - always wondered why there was such a short cycle path there running west East. There is a big dip as you near the green and white striped housing association building which would have scuppered trains but maybe a bridge over a burn? The main line is just beyond this block I guess.
For some reason I always assume the railway went on passed the cattle market and beyond what is now Laich Park.
@Steveo there was also a branch running from the other direction into the west side of the markets from the Slateford mainline.
@gembo the railway here ran on a big embankment, with a siding for the Cox's Glue & Gelatine Mills on Gorgie Road. The land where the multistorey houses sits was wasteground in the 1947 OS survey.
At some point they've obviously decided to pull down the embankment.
@kaputnik according to my book ('The Edinburgh Suburban and Southside Junction Railway' - an incredibly detailed book about the South Sub for people who need to know which day in 1952 the wooden footbridge at Craiglockhart Station was replaced with a metal one, or exactly when the wainscotting in Morningside Station was repainted what colour*) the embankment was removed in September 1977 at the cost of £7,100 because it was "made of landfill material and had been smouldering for years."
The book says that the track went to the Strathspey Raileway.
*I kid you not
Well there you have it. CCE hive-library (hivrary?) solves it all.
@Steveo there was also a branch running from the other direction into the west side of the markets from the Slateford mainline.
I see. I'll need to go look at those old maps you've posted before to visualise that.
Ahhh, the seemingly pointless New Mart Road ran beside the branch line.
Didn't realise Stenhouse had a Racing Stadium.
Not safe for working...
Your not wrong there!!!
You know the sadening thing about all these old maps, the amount of areas that were green (allotments etc), set aside for recreation or have been sold by the council (likely as though they were income) which is now houses.
The tramway depot is now tenaments, the allotments behind now the gardens of said buildings.
Stevenson Road had a Football ground and a tennis court, not even sure what Factors Park was. Other side of the road, more allotments
"Not safe for working..."
And there goes my weekend.
Those maps are a gateway drug to the rest of the archive.
Brilliant maps !
So there was a tramway depot right behind one of my relatives flats at Westfield Road.
They all used to be members of the Gorgie Mills bowling club - and that map has just told me what Gorgie Mills was !!
I have just lost the afternoon........
I'm intrigued by the Happy Valley Amusement Park beside Craiglockhart Wood....
I'm intrigued by the Happy Valley Amusement Park
Sounds like fun!
http://www.craiglockhartwoods.org/feature-page_001/
Happy Valley Amusement Park
Created by John Cox, mentioned up-thread and in that thread which already references this thread. It's all coming together.
http://www.edinburghsouthwest.com/whats-in-a-name-happy-valley-and-the-innocent-railway/
"Not safe for working...
Your not wrong there!!!
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O.. M.. G!!!
There goes my PBP aspirations, I think I'll be lost on this site for a few months!!! :O)
@chdot
On the maps website, if you want to link directly to a zoomed-in map view, click on "link to this view" on the footer tab, and this will add the lat/long co-ords and zoom layer to the URL string.
Its not very intuitive, admittedly. Might just add it on the fly by default in future.
"click on "link to this view" on the footer tab"
Ah yes, V useful -
http://maps.nls.uk/view/82877493#zoom=5&lat=6748&lon=13364&layers=BT
Another trick i'd suggest is to first use the geo/find viewer to zoom into your specific spatial of interest, then you can use the drop down map group selections to toggle between all the different map series covering that area, eg:
http://maps.nls.uk/geo/find/#zoom=14&lat=55.9243&lon=-3.2411&layers=6&point=-3.2364,55.9261
Really should have closed these a while ago buuuut. I didn't realise the Corstorphine branch terminated just after Pinkhill where the Paddockholm estate is now. I don't know where I thought it should go given the houses after that are pretty old!
@Steveo I recall reading somewhere that when the branch was built (early 1900s), there was interest in building a new barracks for Edinburgh - to replace Piershill - in Corstorphine. The barracks eventually was built at Redford a few years later. However the railway had got ahead of themselves and speculatively built a very large station at the end of a very short branch, with very long platforms that would have been suitable for troop trains. Corstorphine station didn't really end up having the traffic to justfiy it's existence (compare and contrast with the halt at Balgreen, which was little more than a wooden waiting hut on a concrete and steel-framed platform). It had traffic serving the middle class commuters heading to their offices in town, but it seems to have been particularly useful thanks to its long platforms and little traffic for carriage cleaning and washing.
the balgreen station sounds like what Livingston South station is like. Old style wooden football stand construction. Rickety. Gets a lot of traffic. I had the misfortune to be there this week. Slightly delirious due to cold and got up after westerhailes - unhooked my bike, waited at door. Thought, that is funny, there is old newmills road that we sledge down, don't normally see that, ah, wait, train has not stopped at currie hill despite being the slow train to Glasgow, here we go, onwards to Livy South. If very quick at the sttion and the eastbound is a few minutes late you can get under the stand and up the other side and get back to currie hill.
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