The Causey proposals have now been revised, with the cycle lanes retained and no pinch point:
http://www.spokes.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/1706-revised-proposals-Philip-photos.pdf
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The Causey & the QBiC - Input Needed!
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Posted 9 years ago #
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"The small refuse collection vehicle is no longer available so access must be provided for the 9m vehicle".
Doesn't sound good, there should surely be a desire to reduce the size of urban refuse vehicles.
Posted 9 years ago # -
Comments from someone who attended the drop-in session:
1. The cycle lanes have be added back into Chapel St. These will at the same level as the road (which is all to be on a raised platform to slow down traffic) but picked out with a different surface treatment. They will be 1.5m wide and I was told that they would be clearly marked as cycle lanes.
2. Two options for traffic on West Crosscauseway were shown - 1 way traffic designed to minimise rat running by only allowing access from the sane direction on Chapel St and Clerk St; and closure at the eastern end with 2 way traffic. In either case, council rubbish collection lorries, large removal vans etc would be able to enter and depart without having to do dangerous turns. There would be 2 way cycling under both options and a toucan link to East Crosscauseway.
3. The exhibition itself did not include any information on surfacing but I was told that it would most probably be new granite sets.
Posted 9 years ago # -
Another report from someone else who attended:
The new proposals presented two options...
Option 2 proposes two-way traffic in West Crosscauseway (WCC) with left-only entrance from and exit into Nicolson Street. Large lorries would be allowed to exit into Buccleuch Street (left only), but no physical barrier to stop other traffic. This would mean that vehicles that got in by mistake or otherwise would legally have to make 3-point turns to get out; there is no physical block to rat-running; and vehicles entering WCC would conflict with eastbound cyclists heading for the toucan to East Crosscauseway (ECC).
In contrast, Option 1 proposes reversing the motor traffic flow along WCC, from west to east, entry left-turn only from Chapel Street and exit left-turn only into Nicolson Street. There would not be any conflict at the toucan to ECC.
Both options would allow loading, but no parking. Residents' parking would be moved to the bays at the end of Buccleuch Place. The road surface in WCC would be flat, no kerbs, and contrasting surfaces distinguishing the areas where cars can go from the areas that cars can't use.
Both options retain the cycle lanes in Chapel Street, 1.5m wide either side of a 5.5m carriageway (i.e. 8.5 m between pavements). The various lanes would be marked by different surface treatment rather than white lines.
Both options allow two-way cycling in WCC. Cyclists would be allowed to turn into and out of WCC in any direction. The cycle route would be along the south side of the triangle, so that cyclists do not whizz downhill through the open pedestrian space in front of the Free Church. Cycle racks would be provided in the triangle.
They didn't mention exactly what types of surface would be used. There would be continuous footways on the east side of Chapel Street and the west side of Nicolson Street.
Posted 9 years ago # -
"The small refuse collection vehicle is no longer available so access must be provided for the 9m vehicle".
If you want you can heavy design vehicles and trade waste out of the public space entirely..
Posted 9 years ago # -
The Causey Project are about to produce a new TRO for their latest proposals for West Crosscauseway (WCC) sometime in December. This will be presented to the T&E Committee on 7 December and if approved sent to statutory consultees (which I think includes Spokes) in mid-December for comments, with public consultation in January/February.
Posted 8 years ago # -
Hello
I wanted to let you all know with plenty of notice that there will be a public exhibition of the Causey TRO proposals on Saturday 20th January 2.30 – 4.30 pm and on Tuesday 23rd January 5.30 – 7.30 pm both at Buccleuch and Greyfriars Church hall.
The purpose of the exhibition is to make sure that West Crosscauseway residents, businesses and key organisations understand the detail of the TRO and how it will affect all users of the street and the immediate area. And, of course to seek to forestall any objections due to any misunderstanding of the proposals.
Isobel
Posted 8 years ago # -
The Causey TRO and RSO are now up for consultation.
Plans are on the CEC website.
TRO: http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/downloads/download/2455/
RSO: http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/downloads/download/2457/Deadline 2 March.
Posted 8 years ago # -
SPOKES' response to the Causey consultation:
http://www.spokes.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/1802-CAUSEY-TRO_RSO-Final-Spokes-comments.pdf
Note that the deadline is 2 March, so you still have a bit of time to submit comments, if you so wish.
Posted 8 years ago # -
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‘This is a moment we have been working towards for nearly two decades’ - Sarah Drummond
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Posted 3 weeks ago # -
The lights and crossing are back at the bottom of Buccleuch St. at Tills bookshop. The tactile paving is new and possibly in the wrong way round. One paving stone is already cracked before being fully cemented
Posted 2 weeks ago # -
I scoped the Summerhall works out yesterday with shooting some video in mind but none of the kerbed segregation is filled yet, just bolted down kerbs at present.
Posted 2 weeks ago # -
...hasn't stopped Labour's hopeful for the Newington/Southside byelection singing the praises of the changes here - https://www.instagram.com/p/DbLHy9NMIBQ/
'Summerhall resurfacing finished'
Basil Fawlty Voice Don't. Mention. The Cones.
Posted 2 weeks ago # -
Good to see another actual cycling would be politician. Is it not cool on Instagram to give your surname ?
Seems to be a relative of Billy Elliot?
Her predecessor - Tim, I don’t recall ever hearing his views on anything?
Posted 2 weeks ago # -
They seem to have shortened the segregation at Summerhall, as well as creating left-hook risks - particularly heading North from Summerhall to Hope Park Cres/Buccleugh St
Do they not realise that the lights can go green, and cars start to move, AT THE SAME TIME as a cyclist arrives at the ASZ to then do a speedway-style dogleg in the red box to go straight on?
Posted 2 weeks ago # -
@neddie having been using it more regularly I've noticed the same issue with the junction from Middle Meadow Walk onto Forrest Rd. The phase for the green on the Toucan crossing is the same as the green for traffic coming from the right! They really need to stagger this as IMO it's unnerving (even for experienced cyclists) at best and an accident waiting to happen at worst.
Posted 2 weeks ago # -
@mcairney - I have been shouted at by a driver at that junction, more than once, each claiming that I "jumped" the red (I didn't). Because they think "their" green gives them absolute priority.
Mad setup
Posted 2 weeks ago # -
They really need to stagger this as IMO it's unnerving (even for experienced cyclists) at best and an accident waiting to happen at worst.
It's had that arrangement for as long as I can remember. I used to commute into town via MMW/Forrest Rd back in the early 2000s. To be honest, what makes it unnerving is the frequency of parking on the left-hand side, affecting cyclists, and parking on the right-hand side, affecting driver. Bikes merging from a driver's left ought to be 'reasonably' safe otherwise.
According to Crashmap, there haven't been any (reported) car-bike collisions there in the last 26 years.
Posted 5 days ago # -
Taking the lane for the length of Forrest Rd is the only viable option (and IMHO creates the safest and least conflict conditions).
Unfortunately, this rules out kids and less confident cyclists
Posted 5 days ago # -
This is why the removal of the covid era lanes on Forrest Road and George IV Bridge annoyed me so much. They provided a safe, family friendly route into town from the south side of Edinburgh. The scheme also provided lots of extra pavement space, including in from of Greyfriars Bobby.
The scheme wasn't perfect, but way better than what is there just now. Will the permanent scheme ever be built?
Posted 5 days ago # -
Meadows to George Street website still says "Our current timeline aims to commence construction in 2025/2026.". Doesn't seem likely does it? Especially now the public hearing was cancelled, and the legal process has been restarted.
Posted 5 days ago # -
I'm starting to wonder how we managed to build an entire tram route but can't even sort out less than one mile of active travel.
Posted 4 days ago #
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