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Post Powderhall (coming soon??)

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  • Started 9 years ago by Klaxon
  • Latest reply from Morningsider

  1. fimm
    Member

    It is the same around Tynecastle with football fans.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  2. Klaxon
    Member

    Ok... forget that bit... I just dream of having pavements to walk rather than the entire area becoming a free for all car park

    Posted 8 years ago #
  3. chdot
    Admin

    "Crawford Bridge is the escape route for away support from Easter Road"

    Bet they like the 'new' chicanes then!

    Posted 8 years ago #
  4. Rob
    Member

    Piersfield Grove->Moira Terrace (seg)->Fishwives Causeway->Portobello HighStreet

    https://goo.gl/maps/evDNdhDY1cG2

    Edit: oh bother, slightly too far along and the line has merged? Worth a scout to see if a bridge could bring it across.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  5. kaputnik
    Moderator

    @chdot that's why the chicanes are locked ooen on fitba days and swiftly locked shut again afterwards

    Posted 8 years ago #
  6. chdot
    Admin

    Ah!

    Didn't know that was possible.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  7. crowriver
    Member

    So, a meeting was had in Abbeyhill.

    Fine ales were consumed. Conversation flowed. Opinions were aired.
    Enthusiasm for a path on the route of the Powderhall line was confirmed amongst a group from the community. Ideas were mooted for further steps.

    I did take notes but this is probably not the place for them. If anyone lives on or nearby the route and would be interested to attend a future meeting of the "working group", PM me.

    I can't guarantee we'll change the world but at least the beer is good. :-)

    Oh there may be a site visit on a weekend in the near future. Possibly. Could be fun.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  8. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Powderhall Link by andy a, on Flickr

    Posted 8 years ago #
  9. crowriver
    Member

    Sterling work, kaputnik!

    Posted 8 years ago #
  10. chdot
    Admin

    This shows how the railway route would be a great off-road alternative to the 'existing' QuietRoute 20 -

    cycling.waymarkedtrails.org/#?map=15!55.9651!-3.1762

    Posted 8 years ago #
  11. chdot
    Admin

    In an *ideal* world the Abbey Lane spur could continue to (and into) Regent Road Park.

    cycling.waymarkedtrails.org/#?map=17!55.9555!-3.1699

    Posted 8 years ago #
  12. Klaxon
    Member

    The beginning of the Powderhall end is marked, just, in the consultation document for Lower Granton Road as 'Future Quiet Route'

    The map segment cuts off quite early.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  13. crowriver
    Member

    "In an *ideal* world the Abbey Lane spur could continue to (and into) Regent Road Park."

    Certainly enough space for a path. Somehow a bit unlikely without Scottish government intervention?

    https://goo.gl/maps/q1tgjTzXHrp

    Posted 8 years ago #
  14. kaputnik
    Moderator

    In an *ideal* world the Abbey Lane spur could continue to (and into) Regent Road Park.

    This was briefly discussed last night as a "wouldn't it be nice if..." But apparently Network Rail have some plans that might preclude anything beyond site of old Abbeyhill station. On the trackbed anyway, that's not to say the ratrun that is Abbeyhill doesn't need badly sorted out.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  15. chdot
    Admin

    "apparently Network Rail have some plans"

    Worth pressing them for detais..

    Seem to remember previous plan didn't happen.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  16. PS
    Member

    Is Network Rail (I presume it currently owns the track up to Powderhall?) on record as saying the land will go to CEC once the line is closed?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  17. chdot
    Admin

    'New Powderhall" under construction -

    Posted 8 years ago #
  18. chdot
    Admin

    "

    How to apply

    Sustrans encourages applications from all sectors where active travel can support the aims of a project including: health, housing, transport, environment, communities, education, regeneration and economic development. If you are not part of a local authority or Statutory body (such as a community group or Trust) and would like to apply for Community Links funding, please liaise with your local authority as they may be able to apply on your behalf.

    "

    http://www.sustrans.org.uk/scotland/what-we-do/communities/community-links-grant-programme-0

    Posted 8 years ago #
  19. chdot
    Admin

  20. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Ah, burning rubbish is now called "energy recovery"?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  21. chdot
    Admin

    "When is an incinerator not an incinerator?"

    http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15317#post-198961 (and below)

    Posted 8 years ago #
  22. wingpig
    Member

    "Ah, burning rubbish is now called 'energy recovery'?"

    Combustion-mediated accelerated phase-dissociative exothermic refuse compaction?

    I wonder what steps will be taken to make sure that people aren't putting tyres or batteries or other things which are not happy when burnt into their landfill bins?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  23. chdot
    Admin

    "I wonder what steps will be taken to make sure that people aren't putting tyres or batteries or other things which are not happy when burnt into their landfill bins?"

    You know the answer to that...

    Posted 8 years ago #
  24. crowriver
    Member

    If you examine the schematic diagram in the document chdot linked to, there is a process whereby metals are extracted prior to the waste being incinerated. So I presume this would catch batteries, and maybe tyres too as they have metal wire threaded through them.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  25. Arellcat
    Moderator

    Millerhill will be a CHP EFW plant. You use the waste incineration process to heat a boiler, and feed the superheated steam into a turbine to generate electricity. The low pressure output steam is fed into the district heat storage drum, and/or to preheat the primary air for the boiler, and/or the condensate is returned to the feedwater drum.

    Gas-oil is used to supplement the waste-as-fuel in order to keep the combustion temperature high (>850 degrees) and burn carcinogens.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  26. chdot
    Admin

    However I assume this new plant will have some sort of 'advanced' sorting/separation system.

    EDIT, as above...

    Posted 8 years ago #
  27. Arellcat
    Moderator

    3.1.2 It is anticipated that the primary source of waste to the facility would be residual non-hazardous municipal waste from the Edinburgh and Midlothian residual waste contract.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  28. Arellcat
    Moderator

    The transport assessment in 5.4.1 reckons on 128 HGV movements per day (waste and consumables coming in, residual waste going out). Most (75%) are expected to be during the lunchtime/afternoon period, with a normal distribution profile either side.

    It is envisaged that the majority of regular staff / visitor movements to / from the proposed Millerhill RERC development would likely access the site using private car. The site is located at present within an area which is generally quite remote from large local centres of population and therefore provides only relatively limited access by cycling and public transport.

    But planning for spaces for 16 bikes/motorbikes maximum, I think.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  29. chdot
    Admin

    "which is generally quite remote from large local centres of population"

    Depends how you define remote.

    It's half a mile from TWO railway stations - with no direct path or road links.

    About a mile from Niddrie, Danderhall and Musselburgh - with wholly inadequate direct links.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  30. Frenchy
    Member

    It's half a mile from TWO railway stations - with no direct path or road links.
    Three, no? Newcraighall, Musselburgh and Shawfair. Or were you not counting Shawfair since there is some sort of path there?

    Posted 8 years ago #

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