No matter what you wear, as long as you do?
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Posted 9 years ago #
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Another suit-liker here. Particularly now I wear a kilt for "social formal" occasions. As mentioned upthread it's a handy distinction between work and not-work: the moment it starts feeling natural to be on the work laptop in casual clothes I know I need to look at that work/life balance.
Also like ties, as it's the only real way to add colour to a suit.
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During a previous heatwave a colleague wore a white linen suit one day. He was instantly christened The Man From Del Monte and abused all day. The effect was further spoiled by him spilling coffee down his trousers early in the morning. He went back to his normal suit the next day and the white suit never returned.
I believe it is the fear of abuse that really drives clothing conformity in the UK. I find that fear fades increasingly the older I get.
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Also like ties, as it's the only real way to add colour to a suit.
True, but there's also a real need to move away from the standard grey and navy suit. A senior partner at an Edinburgh law firm turned up to a meeting last summer in a powder blue suit. He looked the business.
But we fear non-conformity.
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" He was instantly christened The Man From Del Monte and abused all day"
Indeed, can't have people being individuals. Uniforms should be dark, with plain or striped shirt, and tie. Patterned, or bright coloured ties may be allowed on a Friday. Shoes should be black, and highly polished at all times.
"I believe it is the fear of abuse that really drives clothing conformity in the UK. I find that fear fades increasingly the older I get."
"But we fear non-conformity."
Ah, others got there first.
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With a few exceptions we all seem to be basically saying that we like the 'dress code' (or lack thereof) of our respective workplaces. do we choose the job to suit our sartorial preferences? or do we just internalise their norms?
Although our 'norm' is pretty laissez-faire, it is notable that as people get promoted they wear suits more. again, which comes first?
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why the accused wear suits:
"The 27-year-old entered the dock at Selkirk Sheriff Court on Thursday wearing a blue T-shirt and long blue shorts to plead guilty to breaking girlfriend’s Samsung Tablet.Sheriff Peter Paterson warned the accused: “If you turn up to court in shorts again you will be held in contempt of court. It is completely unacceptable.”
(from http://www.thesouthernreporter.co.uk a fortnight ago)
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His knees must have been fairly contemptible.
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Working from home at the moment I'm in relaxed dress, though I chuck a shirt on if I've got a Skype video call. We're setting up a new office soon, so I'll probably voluntarily go back to keeping a suit there (doubt there'll be a need, but it's that distinction I'm after - much like working from home, great for some stuff, but I can't switch off and find myself checking and replying to emails at all hours).
"Indeed, can't have people being individuals. Uniforms should be dark, with plain or striped shirt, and tie. Patterned, or bright coloured ties may be allowed on a Friday. Shoes should be black, and highly polished at all times."
Yep. Got the mick taken out of me because I would match my sock colour with my shirt or tie. Had bought the colourful socks just as something different, then thought might as well match 'em.
When I first started working in Edinburgh I had a green suit. Now that got some looks amongst the lawyers....
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Yes, it is all to do with conformity. Or judging a book by its cover. Why don't men wear skirts? Because they don't. I can't see any other reason for it.
A friend who works in a place where they all wear jeans and t-shirts really did have a dress-up Friday recently. He reported that having his pass in his sporran meant he could wave the sporran at the door-opening thing without getting the pass out.
I am another who likes to be formally dressed. I don't always do dress down Friday (though I also struggle to find clothes that feel appropriately smart/casual!)
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I have a friend who does something that means he wears a suit and tie. He wears odd socks. Deliberately. It is his little bit of rebellion, or something.
Women definitely have much more freedom to express our personalities through clothing.
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"He wears odd socks. Deliberately. It is his little bit of rebellion, or something."
Oh I love that. I'm stealing it.
"Why don't men wear skirts? Because they don't."
Pretty much. My other half commented on just this thing this morning saying if we were in the Pacific islands you can get away with wearing a skirt and it's much better in this weather.
"He reported that having his pass in his sporran meant he could wave the sporran at the door-opening thing without getting the pass out."
Genuinely laughed out loud at that. Hehehe!
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Why don't men wear skirts?
Mrs Paddy was involved in this - gave a welcome speech to the performers
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Suits also have the major drawback of no thigh pockets in the trousers and often the pockets in the jacket sewn up. Totally impractical; a dreadful class of garment, and happily one I don't have to wear regularly.
Today I'm sporting shorts (rare for me) and I'm still too hot. Wearing a suit doesn't bear thinking about.
Posted 9 years ago # -
Not many mods amongst the CCErs.
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Possibly not but @PS you had a very fine suit on this morning. Fortunately. It cooled down
Posted 9 years ago # -
"...and then found out that I almost didn't get a job for this one reason alone."
If people are going to be like that they should issue/outfit all interviewees with identical suits, shirts, ties and shoes to avoid their personal clothing preconceptions clouding their view of applicants' personalities and capabilities.
I have heard of people being denied their right to dress down on dress-down-days due to their particular manager's fetish for collars or having things buttoned-up or tucked-in. There are also the people who really struggle to dress down and end up tucking too many of the wrong sorts of things in, or who appear unable to relax in relaxing clothing.
Though I no longer have to wear employment-shoes I hope mine were scruffy enough to have been a source of irk when witnessed by the sort of people who believe in shiny shoes, creasy trousers, buttoned cuffs and fastened top buttons.
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I'm in green shorts, a politically-themed T-shirt, no socks and no shoes today.
The benefits of "working" from home.
Posted 9 years ago # -
@ps did look very smart in his suit and deal clincher tie
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