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Clothing - 'normal' v 'special'

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  1. chdot
    Admin

    Been having an off-forum conversation about 'more of us' and what people are wearing.

    Is there a 'distance factor'

    If people are cycling (say) 5 miles or more, do they 'discover' the benefits of 'cycle clothing'?

    Are there people who bought into 'the full kit' when starting out and have not replaced it and gone 'normal'?

    I use 'cycle jackets' (and waterproof trousers when necessary) because they are sold in bike shops. If I spent more time in places like Tiso, I might just have 'normal' 'outdoor' clothing(?)

    Posted 8 years ago #
  2. jdanielp
    Member

    I tend to overheat/require a shower upon arriving at my destination in pretty much any 'normal' clothing unless I take it very easy while cycling (or maybe if I was to invest in an electric-assist bicycle). When I got back into cycling in 2009 I initially made do with what I had (a mixture of casual and some hill-walking clothing, so already partly specialist); now I only wear cycling or active-specific clothing for all but the shortest trips, but I tend to favour walking for shorter trips anyway.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  3. paddyirish
    Member

    I would like to wear normal clothing but have found that it just isn't practical for me. You do see a lot of people looking great in normal clothes, but they aren't big sweaty blokes.

    Even this morning I did a 1/2 mile walk to Minipaddy's school, then a 3 mile essentially downhill cycle to drop off micropaddy at nursery and then head home. By the time I got home I was drenched in sweat. "Normal" clothes would be unwearable. A shower and a change into normal clothes sorts me out OK. The cycle specific clothes will dry quickly and be wearable (if a little smelly) for this evening's pick-up.

    2 pairs of "normal" trousers have been destroyed around the crotch region after a few short cycles when I had to rush to catch a train, and also found that in wet weather even with mudguards, trousers (at least) get covered in mud (mudguards don't protect against a passing vehicle driving through a puddle). I bought a clothes brush which I leave in the office, but it is just more trouble than it is worth.

    So nowadays I wear cycle (or outdoor) specific clothing almost all the time.

    To avoid offending those at the school/nursery, I will generally cover my lycra shorts with a pair of loose shorts and a loose fitting T shirt in summer.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  4. cb
    Member

    The problem I find with 'cycle jackets' is that the designers seem to assume that no one will want to wear them when off the bike. So no front pockets.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  5. Claire
    Member

    For commuting and utility, anything up to 10 miles I will usually wear normal clothes. I have a lot of standard items of clothing that have cycling-specific design so they get plenty wear, too. Everyone's different, but I object to (me) looking like a lycra warrior when I'm off to meet a friend or get a pint of milk. Cycling is a normal activity, so I dress normally :)

    I will wear more technical clothing for longer leisure rides.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  6. Stickman
    Member

    I wear cycle clothing to commute. My work has showers/lockers so it's just as easy to shower there than at home.

    For trips to the shops etc I'll wear "normal" clothes although usually with SPD shoes (and I fancy a pair of trainer-style ones like Claire has!)

    Although when on my lovely 3-speed it's strictly normal clothes.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  7. Claire
    Member

    @stickman They are absolutely ace! I love them! You can get black ones too, if purple and turquoise isn't your bag :) The sole is hard enough for the bike but has enough give for you to happily walk from place to place. The SPDs sometimes crackle against the pavement, which tickles my sense of humour.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  8. Stickman
    Member

    I like the purple ones!

    Posted 8 years ago #
  9. Ooh, what are these shoes?

    What I wear depends entirely on how I feel, what the weather is doing, what distance I'm going....

    Down to the shops? Just normal.
    Into town for lunch? Just normal.
    Into town within the lunch hour on a specific chore? Cycling 3/4s, maybe gloves.
    Lunch hour hilly training ride? 3/4s, gloves, lycra jersey, cap, possible helmet.
    Long weekend ride? lycra shorts, 3/4s over, lycra jersey, cap, possible helmet.

    Or any mixture of the above.

    When it's cold I've a Rapha jacket that is the snuggliest thing ever, which is cycling specific, but looks normal (pretty much).

    Oh, sometimes walking gear gets worn to, generally if the weather is changeable, so it can deal with warmth, then rain, then wind, then cold.

    In short... Depends....

    Posted 8 years ago #
  10. Stickman
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  11. jdanielp
    Member

    Just to clarify that my standard commute is around 7.5 miles and that by wearing cycling/active clothing, and then changing into normal clothing at work, I get away without feeling the need to shower on arriving at work.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  12. fimm
    Member

    I note that a couple of the men in the office, who do a very similar bike-train-bike commute to what I do, like to get changed for it while I am happy to cycle in my office clothes (and a non-cycling-specific coat if required). I think this is because they feel that they get unacceptably sweaty, while I don't.

    (I do sometimes get a bit hot & sweaty, because I'm paranoid about getting cold and so tend to overdress... maybe men are more concerned about being sweaty/smelly? Or maybe it is just me that isn't bothered!!)

    For any kind of sports/distance cycling, I'm straight into full lycra. Any sort of transport cycling, normal clothes. (The one exception is if I'm cycling to the swimming pool, when I tend to wear Ron Hill running longs, simply because they don't have to be clipped into cycle clips like my normal trousers.)

    Posted 8 years ago #
  13. dougal
    Member

    Definitely more about speed than distance. Twenty-odd miles is fine in civvies if you've got the time to stop and smell the roses/eat the ice cream. But 6 minutes mad dash for the station is horrendous in heavy jeans and wooly jumper.

    +1 for purple shoes. Is this going to turn into another purple shoes thread :-)

    Posted 8 years ago #
  14. Claire
    Member

    I suppose it will also depend on your sweat level and the speed you go. For utility/commute I average about 10mph (wheeeee!) and am not too much of a sweaty betty. An emergency scoosh of deodorant can come to the rescue...

    Posted 8 years ago #
  15. wingpig
    Member

    I discovered the zippy pockets and hard-wearing durability of cycle-clothing-manufacturer-manufactured baggy cycling shorts in the early 2000s; they have now supplanted other sorts of baggy pocketed shorts as my default clothing for all activities, with their zippy valuable-retaining pockets and hard-wearing knees, as ideal for scraping around floors in pursuit of offspring or scraping past nettles in allotments as they are for bicycling with things like phones, keys, cards and cash in pockets. The large side-thigh pockets of the Endura Humvee ¾ are particularly useful. For rides longer than a couple of miles I wear lycra bicycle-padding shorts beneath them, though have never worn lycra shorts unaccompanied as they just don't have the pocket space.
    I didn't get a bicycle-specific upper-body garment until 2004, when I tried a Revolution [fancy-name-for-polyester-and-nylon] T-shirt, which was a revelation in terms of its ability to allow air to pass through it to cool the wearer down whilst in motion and its ability to not appear as horribly sweaty for anywhere near as long as a normal cotton equivalent during and after any activity more strenuous than sleeping in any temperature above freezing. As someone who turns into a sweaty mess without any provocation (even when cycling slowly in winter) I now wear bicycle- or running-vaguely-specific T-shirty tops most of the time, though like the shorts they are all normal-T-shirt-baggy. I have a couple of long-sleeve things which look a bit more cycley for use if it gets sufficiently cold.
    I didn't move into bicycle-shoes until a few years ago, but the Vibram®-soled chunky-trainer waterproof Shimano things I currently use are pretty much the same as the Merrell Moabs I wear the rest of the time, except for the cleat attachments, and can be worn for most foot-based activities including scuttles up rocky hills.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  16. Claire
    Member

    Ooooh, interesting. The blokes' shoes are a little bit different. I think my purple is a bit louder? In typical shrink and pink style, the other woman's shoe is bright, lurid pink.

    http://www.evanscycles.com/products/specialized/cadet-womens-shoe-ec069904

    Posted 8 years ago #
  17. fimm
    Member

    I like the shoes. You've all reminded me that I want some new shoes...

    Posted 8 years ago #
  18. SRD
    Moderator

    if i'm going to wear pink, i do quite like it to be lurid rather than either babyish or barbieish....

    Posted 8 years ago #
  19. nevelbell
    Member

    I sometimes combo the commute with a cycling jersey with regular shorts. The jersey has an elastic that run across the bottom which helps to hold my shorts up, saving those behind getting a view of my behind!

    Posted 8 years ago #
  20. Roibeard
    Member

    Given that I'm generally doing short distances (although with vehicular cycling sprints and speed when without the kids) and work attire is combats (I like the pockets) and t-shirts, I have avoided cycling clothing on the whole.

    Exceptions have crept in - waterproof jackets are now vented shells. Last one was cycle specific, current one is more generically "active". Waterproof trousers are cycling specific, but then used for everything - the calf and ankle are much slimmer fit to avoid catching in the cranks/chain.

    Finally, I did switch to cycling shoes (and changing) as I was finding that the commute was wrecking my brogues (sole breaking on stabilising foot).

    I do find that trousers are wearing out sooner, due to cycling specific holes, rather than wearing out at the knees. That might suggest cycling specific trousers eventually, were the combats not quite so cheap. I've just ended up with a large, disproportionate pile for "rough" work. It was much easier on the farm where good clothes could end their days as farm clothes, but when there isn't much rough/muddy/oily work happening in proportion to the cascade it seems wasteful!

    Come to think of it, these issues are indeed a function of distance cycled, but not acute distance, rather chronic distance, and even a small commute, carried out daily, will take its toll on "ordinary" clothes.

    Maybe the solution is found in Brooks instead of cycling specific clothes?

    Robert

    Posted 8 years ago #
  21. steveo
    Member

    I think there is some truth to that. I've found my work trousers don't wear so badly with the leather saddle than they did with the sports one.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  22. crowriver
    Member

    My rule of thumb is as follows:

    Under 10 miles: normal clothes
    Over 10 miles but under 40 miles: "outdoors" clothing (flat seams), maybe some items of cycle specific (e.g.. windproof jacket).
    Over 40 miles: Lycra.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  23. I wish I could cycle in 'normal' clothes, but I naturally run hot and will sweat crazily even if it's slightly warm and I'm doing something as simple as a gentle walk.

    Hence it's lycra due to the wicking qualities and the fact that I ride just short of 10 miles each way to and from work, so am generally soaked through and ready for a cool shower at each end!

    Posted 8 years ago #
  24. paddyirish
    Member

    "I wish I could cycle in 'normal' clothes, but I naturally run hot and will sweat crazily even if it's slightly warm and I'm doing something as simple as a gentle walk."

    Yep- recognise that.

    I find temperature gradients impossible to deal with as well. In winter it is pleasantly cool outside and the second I set foot inside an overheated shop/office/train etc, I am raining sweat.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  25. paddyirish - we must be twins! Temp gradients affect me the same way.

    As does expending energy when wrapped up warm in winter. I soon start to get too hot and I'm the one with sweat dripping down my face whilst others are freezing and dry.

    My ex used to refer to me as 'the human radiator' because of the heat I gave off, and complain that I gave off so much heat when I slept that she found it uncomfortable. (She was grateful in winter as she used to put her painful ice-block feet against me in bed to warm them up!!)

    Posted 8 years ago #
  26. wee folding bike
    Member

    Craghoppers almost all the time.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  27. sallyhinch
    Member

    I always (40+ miles and counting) cycle in my everyday clothes. Whether they count as 'normal' clothes I'm not sure - a lot of what I wear now on or off the bike does reflect the fact that my means of transport does not have a roof but then again, it has other benefits too (merino is amazing for anyone living & working in a damp stone cottage, regardless of whether they cycle). The only real concession I make between a cycling and a non-cycling day is whether or not I'll wear Levi's as the seam does not work well with a Brooks saddle (they're okay for short hops though), and I've had to sadly concede that an Akubra does not stay reliably on my head on the bike. On the other hand, you can get away with less practical shoes if you're cycling rather than walking so it's swings and roundabouts

    Posted 8 years ago #
  28. paulmilne
    Member

    Strictly non-cycling gear for me, I'm afraid. I try not to work harder than I would be when walking - bikes move you faster and farther for the equivalent energy expended by walking. I wouldn't put running gear on when I leave the house even if I'm late and know that I'll have to sprint for the train, why should I act differently when on a bike?

    Also, I'm pretty much a short distance person on my bike. Over 10 miles on a bike? Fugeddaboudit! But even if I did I'd still just use ordinary clothes, on the principals above. (I might use some padded pants, though, for longer trips.) And shorts/trainers, but what I'd use if walking a long(ish) distance.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  29. MediumDave
    Member

    For short distance normal clothes (usually German moleskin trousers and a cotton shirt) plus cleated shoes and a cycling cap.

    For touring padded shorts, ronhills and jersey.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  30. Snowy
    Member

    I like this weather. Normal shorts n t-shirt on the bike, but as always some tri-shorts underneath (seams again...)

    Being another human radiator though, my average speed has had to take a hit this week so that I don't arrive looking like I've just been rained on.

    Posted 8 years ago #

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