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Ferry Road assault on cyclist

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  1. le_soigneur
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    Edinburgh Police North West tweeted
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    May 22 : Police in Drylaw are appealing for witnesses to an assault which occurred about 5.30pm, Tuesday 8th May 2018. A cyclist on the Ferry Road walkway near to Ainslie Park Leisure Centre had items thrown at him and was pushed off his bike by a group of children.
    We are keen to speak with anyone who may have been in the area around this time or saw the group of children. We are particularly interested in helmet cam or similar footage and would ask cycle path users to check your footage and contact us if you were nearby at the time.
    The group was described as about 10 children, 14-16 years old, wearing black and grey hooded tops trying to conceal their identities. Anyone who may have infortion please contact us on 101, quoting incident number 3222, 08/05/2018 or report anonymously to @CrimestoppersUK

    Posted 6 years ago #
  2. 14Westfield
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  3. dougal
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    The police tweet above says "Ferry Road walkway" which I took to mean the NEPN, especially as they refer to cycle path users later. The BBC article just says Ferry Road.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  4. minus six
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    We are particularly interested in helmet cam or similar footage

    oh is that so

    what puzzles me here is that the usual response is that they can't check out yer usb stick cos of IT security policy and no we can't view it on youtube either, our systems aren't set up for this new-fangled internet thingy

    Posted 6 years ago #
  5. gibbo
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    @bax

    A few years ago, I made this point on CEC:

    If it was a murder and the only piece of evidence was filmed footage of the killer in the act, police would use it. Therefore, the argument that helmet cam footage doesn't can't up in court is nonsense.

    And, therefore, it was nothing more than an excuse to avoid enforcing laws that are intended to protect cyclists.

    After "operation close pass" was brought in, the police "suddenly realised" they could use footage to prosecute.

    And here we are with another concrete example of the police being willing to use helmet cam footage.

    Maybe someone should ask the police why they peddled these lies for so many years.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  6. ejstubbs
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    what puzzles me here is that the usual response is that they can't check out yer usb stick cos of IT security policy and no we can't view it on youtube either, our systems aren't set up for this new-fangled internet thingy

    Police Scotland sent a couple of bobbies round to view some dashcam footage I had of a ned pulling wheelies on an unregistered trail bike through traffic on Craiglockhart Avenue. They didn't take a copy away but did ask me to hang on to it myself in case they needed it to support a possible prosecution. So it looks like they will use video taken by members of the public.

    I can understand why they might not want to plug someone else's USB stick in to one of their machines. They are a notorious vector for malware. The company I work for now, and the one before that, has disabled the use of USB ports by data devices (USB sticks, portable hard drives, even mobile phones) on all their machines, requiring senior management sign-off before a USB port could be enabled for a critical, one-time data exchange purpose.

    I can also very well believe that access to YouTube from their network is blocked as a matter of general policy. They would by no means be unique in that.

    I suspect that, though their interest might be piqued by footage posted on Youtube, they can't use it as it stands. They'd have to retrieve the original footage and gather robust information about how it was collected before it could be used as evidence. More likely, regarding an incident such as the Ferry Road assault, they would use any footage obtained to try to identify one or more of the culprits, and use that to progress their enquiries to the point where the PF would be prepared to take it to court.

    That's not to say that "technical reasons" aren't sometimes used as a cover for "can't be @rsed", of course.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  7. dougal
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    AIUI other police services even allow you to upload video direct to them.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  8. Frenchy
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    AIUI other police services even allow you to upload video direct to them.

    Greater Manchester is one of them:

    https://twitter.com/KatyHolliday/status/999629814997966849

    "20 minutes between video upload and email to say a letter has been sent to the registered keeper!"

    Posted 6 years ago #

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