seats too high and poorly positioned
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Posted 9 years ago #
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seats too high and poorly positioned
There's a small bolt on the collar around the seat tube. Loosen this and the seat post can be moved to the correct height. Re-tighten the bolt to 7Nm. Sometimes you can also move the seat fore and aft and even alter its angle to the horizontal, but that depends on the arrangement at the top of the seat post. Happy to help out if I can - correct seat placement is crucial to comfort and mechanical efficiency.
Posted 9 years ago # -
Signs are new, but the shelter has been missing for about 2 months!
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It's taking a long time to replace the shelters indeed.
One of the reasons seems to be that the fancy new design (where fanciness isn't required) is cantilevered off of two steel verticals. These in turn are mounted onto 4 bolts set into concrete foundation blocks about a foot below the pavement surface. This means they have to dig a socking great hole, dig 2 further holes in it in which to set two large concrete foundation pads. You can see when the job is half complete that they have a giant spreader device to hold the 2 blocks at the correct distance apart until the stop itself is dropped in (I assume in 1 piece) and bolted to the founds. The whole lot then needs filled in again and re-paved. If the foundation block is set at the wrong depth, then the pre-installed seating is either too high or too low.
I think the old design which had a number of verticals and sat on small feet bolted into the paving or tarmac is satisfactory enough; no matter where or how it is installed, the seating will always be at the intended height.
This is rather like an unamusing episode of Grand Designs, we need Kevin McCloud to come and tut at the amount of ground works needed for what should be a simple structure, ruminate about the cost required to engineer it to this standard and then philosophise about dumping such an oversize, modern structure in a traditional setting.
Posted 9 years ago # -
the big question - will they affect whether we keep our WHS designation ??
<joke>
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I must admit, I was pretty surprised to find that the bus shelters apparently needed replacing since there is nothing wrong with them. Passed one yesterday that had been installed and the seats did look stupidly high. Very strange. :-/
Posted 9 years ago # -
The problem is not with the bus shelters being too wide, it's with the carriageway being too wide and the pavements too narrow.
Haven't experienced one as an actual shelter, so can't comment on seat height, though I do like the idea of having individual easily height adjusted seats, maybe with a hydraulic lever as in office chairs?
Posted 9 years ago # -
Yes the pavement slopes significantly.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/22092286898/in/datetaken/
Posted 9 years ago # -
Progress is slow.
Posted 9 years ago # -
@Min
I think it's related to this
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-29665718
There IS nothing wrong with them apart from the Owner wants them back.
Posted 9 years ago # -
So Embra's bus stops aren't actually Embra's at all. They're JCDecaux's bus stops.
Posted 9 years ago # -
No doubt CEC's lawyers are looking at the contracts to see if 'fit for purpose' relates to shelter/seating or advert support...
Posted 9 years ago # -
I notice that the adverts come pre-installed, even before the seats, glazing etc. I suppose they want these things making money before they can actually fulfill their overt purpose of being a bus stop.
Posted 9 years ago # -
kaput,
A handful of Edinburgh's stops belong to CEC. They tend to be in minor areas. I suspect for example the terminus on Seafield St is, as it has no advertising and no branding.
Most formerly belonged to Clear Channel under the old contract. These are all being replaced with the new JCD shelters. Hence the rush to change them all.
Clear channel seem to have had a much wider range of shelter styles that could be sensitively adapted to situation rather than JCD's one size blocks all approach.
Posted 9 years ago # -
What a difference a day makes -
Posted 9 years ago # -
The new shelter opposite Sainsburys Local at Marchmont Rd / Spottiswoode St has its advert nicely blocking the sightlines of the junction as you exit Spottiswoode St.
No choice but to position your car bonnet over the red cycle lane to see anything coming. It was already awkward as it was, with the staggered junction with Marchmont Cres, speeding motorists on Marchmont Rd, pedestrian islands & buses turning.
Another case of "advertising before safety" (like the digital moving billboards)
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